New to reloading, loading for .30-'06

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My partner's older brother just moved to a new to them house less than several football fields from both DNR land, and a huge National Forest. He plans on setting up a reloading shed when everything settles down. Former prepper homestead too, so a @50 yard range behind the shop building.

Anyway, what die set/s should I get so I can reload for .30-'06? I have my dad's Win 70 pre 64 in .30-'06. Likely '53 or '54 vintage, when he came home from Korea. My "brother" in law has an AR-10, so there will be plenty of powder and .308 bullets. I suspect we will focus on 168 grain projectiles. Keep it simple and buy in bulk.

I want to start to do my research now so I can keep my eyes open for a GREAT die set. I have no problem buying a premium die set because they will last longer anyway. Brands? I have a bunch of used brass, and another 150ish cases on the way as well.

Will also be getting a 10mm pistol, so there is another die set I will need. (and a .40 S&W most likely too)

If it were me buying, I'd get a Dillon 550 with 5.56 7.62x51 .30-'06 10mm and .357 Sig dies.
 
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Can't go wrong with RCBS, Lyman, Redding, Hornady, etc....Many would consider Redding as the premium die.....I've used them all....hard to go wrong with a quality manufacturer.

Randy
 
30-06 was the first caliber i ever reloaded. Its a great round to start with imho. I started with and still use my Lee Hand Press and Lee dies that my parents gifted me for Christmas back in '83. I know a lot of folks favor other brands but my Lee equipment has served me faithfully these many years.
 
When buying dies I just watch eBay for a good deal on an older RCBS set. They can usually be had for around $20 but I’m guessing the panic buying has effected those prices. In good condition they’re as good as any option twice that price. Of course, if you’re completely new to reloading buying used might lead to problems if parts are missing or incorrect stuff has made its way into the box.

It looks like Hornady sets are available for $35 and match grade sets from Hornady and Dillon are closer to $85. I’d have a hard time justifying spending $85 on a die set but then again I’ve never tried one. I doubt I’d see any difference on the target anyways. I’ve got a few of the regular Hornady sets and always been satisfied with them.

Have you read through a reloading manual yet?
 
I've been handloading for 45 years but just started the 30-06 for my Garand & Springfield 03. I typically use RCBS but with the 06 I had to buy a Redding full body die in order to set the shoulder back a bit more. I use 162 - 168 gr bullets & usually IMR 4064.
Have fun!
 
Understand that I consider myself a skilled reloader and have reloaded thousands of rounds of rifle, pistol and shotgun ammo, and I have been reloading since 1972. I am not a bench rest competitor and so do not have experience with some of the equipment and techniques used by benchresters, but I believe that I do a decent enough job.

As mentioned, all the makers build quality stuff. I have mostly settled in on Lee Collet neck sizers and Redding body dies for all my bolt guns, as they produce the least amount of runout for me so far.

If you asked me to settle on a brand, it would be Redding.
 
My choice has always been RCBS or Lyman, although I have a few Redding collet neck sizing dies and micrometer seating dies for long range match ammo in the .223, 308 and 30/06.

I've never been impressed with the Lee dies and I only use them when no other die is available for some of the odd calibres that I reload for.

When it comes to reloading equipment, don't be penny wise and dollar stupid. Buy the best that is available as it will generally last your lifetime.

For general use in the 30/06 your choice of 168 grain bullets is a good one. The newer 175 grain Sierra MKs shoots a bit better from 600 yards to 1,000 yards, but the MK 168 has been a match and target shooter's standby for years. For hunting with the Ought-Six, I like the Hornady 165 grain spitzer boat tail bullets for mid size game.
 
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I am not supplying the press, but I will own my own dies, and likely supply my own powder and primers, unless we agree on common components.

I'll likely look for a mint used die set. I have plenty of time. Anything under $100 for everything die-related is fine. But used is fine. Don't need match for the Winchester 70. Buy once, cry once.
 
I've used RCBS equipment since the mid 1970s, and always had great results. Groups for my 06s averaged under an inch: both my Remington Model 700, and my Browning BAR. Enjoy your rifle.
 
That Winchester hasn't been fired in my lifetime. It's a plain Jane version, but in great mechanical shape. A few freckles that were poorly touched up with cold blue way back when. Can it be removed without screwing up the factory blueing? I am a commercial photographer, trained old school. I can retouch negatives, so why not precise cold blue blending?
 
Spend as much as you wish on a Full Length set.

I own a lot of brands and they all work great.

My advice, don't overlook adding the Lee Collett neck sizing die for your turnbolt.
 
A quality set of dies can last a lifetime, so look upon them as a long term investment. You can buy cheap dies, then when you find they are not that well made, you buy quality dies. Why not just buy really high quality dies and be done with it?
 
The most finely-crafted, expensive set of dies on the planet will produce lousy ammo if the person doing the reloading doesn't know what they're doing; and by contrast excellent, match-grade ammo can be turned out with the most inexpensive dies if the reloader knows what he's doing.

My suggestion would be to first spend your money on buying as many reloading manuals as you can afford, then read them and understand what you're reading before you load the first round. All of the major manuals begin with a long section that will tell you exactly how to go through the loading process, and that knowledge will save you much aggravation and protect you from what can be dangerous mistakes.

The most inexpensive dies, properly cared for, can load many thousands of rounds of good ammo before they wear out -- more ammo than the average shooter will use in a lifetime.
 
Just bought a new set of RCBS 06 dies for 15 bucks... gun show...easy to find exc cond dies for under 25 dollars in 30-06 otherwise buy aset of Redding micrometer dies...expensive but precise. And while I am a user of Dillon presses...hard to beat a good condition or new Rockchucker press and this coming from someone who does not own one. I am not very fond of Lee equipment but have used the Collet dies and they do work....but they are for neck sizing which is good for one rifle....when set...but not for 2 or more. I typically throw the junk locking nuts off and put a real set on them otherwise they have to be adjusted every time they are used. Another set of good 06 dies are the RCBS Competition dies. I have multiple sets of them in various calibers. Not cheap but less than Redding micrometer sets. For a hunting bullet in the 165 gr range it's hard to beat the Nosler 165 Accubond. Learn the rifle loading first...then read up on loading handgun...A bit of difference. Above all be safe and have fun learning your new favorite hobby!
 
IMHO . . . starting out get a Lee or RCBS die set. They work just fine and will teach you what you want, if anything more, in a die set longer term. Learn how to measure your brass (caliper and eg Hornady LnL Headspace Comparator System) so that your brass re-sizing only pushes the shoulder back a minimum amount (eg 0.002-3" for bolt and 0.003-4" for semi-auto). That will give you consistent brass and extend your brass' life.

For 50 yards, nothing will likely matter as much as the quality (meaning consistency) of the bullet you choose. Without knowing your goals, IMO you've chosen a good bullet weight - personally I'd go with Sierra.

GLHF !
 
You said you are looking for a GREAT die set for a factory rifle....IMO, you can’t do much better than Forster. I find that generally Hornady makes a die set that I can be happy with.
 
The first thing you ought to buy is at least one good reloading manual. Lyman had the best instructions for folks just starting out. That you're not going to own the press is a possible problem. Just exactly how much do you trust your associate? I ask this because you're literally betting your gun and possibly your health and welfare on his doing everything exactly right.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is a cartridge gauge. It's a real good idea for have a proper gauge to make sure that your ammo is correct and your dies are doing what they're supposed to.

10 mm & .40 dies are the same. You can get someone to make you up a set of spacers to allow you to swap between calibers without having to adjust your expander, seater and crimp dies.

I happen to prefer dies with the the decapping pin in a separate "top hat" at the top of the sizing die (Dillon & Lyman). In case you have to pull bullets and resize the case, you can leave the primer in place. [The "top hat" lets you pull the decapping pin without changing the adjustment and much faster than having to screw the pin all the way out and then re-install.]
 
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My dies are almost exclusively RCBS and Dillon. Both companies back their products with excellent customer service. If you price shop you can find good discount on RCBS dies.

You can buy standard dies, match dies, dies with micrometer bullet seating adjustment, dies with a floating bullet seater and so on. Buy as much precision as you need and no more. Definitely want carbide sizing die in pistol. For most pistol applications taper crimp is best, with roll crimp for revolver.
 
Any quality 3 set die package will do the job.........

Knowing your barrel's twist rate be it 1:10 or what ever will also help you select bullet weights to be loaded.

For light target loads out to 300 yards I like any 147-150gr spritzer design. A165-180 will work for 500 yard stuff, if you need longer shots.
Some rifles will even shoot the 100-125gr bullets if the twist is right for an extra light recoil or fast load.

Have fun.
 
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