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900 FPE 150 yards
I am currently in a friendly conversation in another forum with a member that claims his .44 mag Redhawk can get 900fpe at 150 yards.
I don't know any of the particulars, but this seems a stretch to me.
Am I all wet?
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Can a math whiz do the "backward" calculation for foot pounds with a 240 gr bullet to find the velocity needed for 900 fpe? I've only had one cup of coffee this morning...
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1800 fps per this guy I'm talking with.
225 grain bullet.
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Not knowing the barrel length of the RedHawk being used, the 225 grain FTX factory loading could easily retain 1000 FPS at 150 yards with a 8" or longer barrele
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Originally Posted by ralph7
1800 fps per this guy I'm talking with.
225 grain bullet.
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That MV number is from a magazine article that was using 20" rifles chambered in 44 Magnum, not handguns
I remember reading it, just can't recall which magazine
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Not knowing the barrel length of the RedHawk being used, the 225 grain FTX factory loading could easily retain 1000 FPS at 150 yards with a 8" or longer barrele
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The question was can a .44 magnum revolver achieve 900 foot pound ENERGY at 150 yards.
I just found that hard to believe.
Any contradictions are more than welcome.
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Handloading manuals and a copy of Mannes' "Tables of Bullet Performance" (inexpensive) are indispensable for answering these questions quickly.
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900 fpe x 450240 /240 = X squared, X that would be the 150 yard velocity. My guess is the muzzel velocity would be almost 2X.
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900 fpe x 450240 /240 = X squared, X that would be the 150 yard velocity. My guess is the muzzel velocity would be almost 2X.
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That's why I disagreed with the guy on his claim.
He said his reloads were doing about that out of his Redhawk, I say not.
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That bullet would still have to be going around 1300ish+FPS to obtain that energy at that distance if my rough math is correct and I believe that would be a stretch from a handgun for sure
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Out of a handgun,I think that's stretching it...I'd like to see how flat can a primer get.
But in a rifle,that's possible.
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Using JBM's ballistics calculator with the following data:
Bullet: 240gr Nosler JHP, G1=0.173
Powder: Lil'Gun, 24.5gr (Highest MV listed at Max Pwdr charge)
Barrel: 8.275"
MV: 1,582fps (Hodgdon's Reloading Data)
From JBM Ballistic Calculator:
Energy at Muzzle: 1582 ftlb
Energy at 150yd: 692 ftlb, Vel: 1,140 fps
Energy at 100yd: 848 ftlb, Vel: 1,262 fps
MV required for 900 ftlb @ 150yds: 1,833 fps
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So maybe the other question...
Is the Redhawk capable of launching a .44 caliber bullet {225 grains or more} safely at 1800fps?
Is this a sane load?
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In 1973 Guns & Ammo on a magazine cover proclaimed that a Thompson Center Contender with a 10" barrel chambered in 30 Herrett had more energy at 100 yards than a 44 mag did at the muzzle.
That is one TOUGH Red Hawk, but I won't shoot those loads. I have three 30 Herrett barrels and owned a 7-1/2" Redhawk. At those energy levels, pain and suffering is beginning.
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[QUOTE=Twoboxer;140926349]Using JBM's ballistics calculator with the following data:
MV required for 900 ftlb @ 150yds: 1,833 fps[/QUOTE]
That's the number I was looking for. So, the guy claiming 900 fpe @ 150 yards is stretching it, quite a bit...
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