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Old 10-19-2020, 12:30 AM
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Friend stopped by and delivered 953 Winchester Small Rifle primers for my pistol that I had paid him $15 for.

Couldn't wait to test (waste) at least one primer, to get an idea if my striker will work on the harder shell these things have.

So at about 10:30 PM last night, I primed a case, stuck the muzzle in a piece of scrap carpet in my bedroom, and pulled the trigger...it functioned just fine and now I know enough to wear headphones indoors, even with just a little primer!

Now to fully reload 50 and do more testing.
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Old 10-19-2020, 01:03 AM
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Okay the carpet was not a good idea, a primer will literally send a flame out of the muzzle. Better idea is basement, somewhere with cement and not carpet. Inside a garage is not a good idea if you own a gasoline lawnmower or anything that has you keeping gasoline in the garage.

Yes, earplugs are a good idea when popping a primer indoors.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:12 AM
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I was using the Lee Hand tools and tapping a primer in and got a good stiff BANG! It encouraged me to change my methods, to say the least.
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I was using the Lee Hand tools and tapping a primer in and got a good stiff BANG! It encouraged me to change my methods, to say the least.
I started out with a Lee Loader and could never get over the idea of hammering a primer in.

Wasn't long before I got a press.
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Old 10-19-2020, 05:05 AM
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Okay the carpet was not a good idea...
...Yes, earplugs are a good idea when popping a primer indoors.
Shoving the muzzle into a piece of scrap carpet was my attempt at muffling the sound.

Yep, bad idea, and it didn't work very well at muffling anything!


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Old 10-19-2020, 09:36 AM
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I loaded some Federal small rifle match primers for my Compact 9 and they all worked just fine. I think that pistol has a pretty robust strike judging from the divot made in even the rifle primers.

For a while I could find SRP's when there were no SPP's, now it's hard to find either.
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Old 10-19-2020, 12:43 PM
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I have 8 Lee Loaders and had primer pops with only one; 44 Magnum. I found that if I kept my tool clean and the priming base free, along with a slight chamfer on the primer pocket mouth I eliminated any need to change skivvies...

I have fairly close neighbors so I built a "quiet box" for testing in my shop. I took a large storage tub 45 gallon with lid and lined it with carpet. Cut a 6" hole in one end and a 6"x8" slot in the other. First shot through it was a 125 gr JHP from a 4" 9mm and my ears rang for about an hour. So the only time I use it is if it's raining and everyone has their windows closed or if I test a rimfire. (And yes, I am fully aware of the "dangers" of unburnt powder and carpet and possible fires and even explosions!)...

On occasion I have loosely wrapped a rag around the muzzle of a gun to fire a primed only case and my shop is still standing. I've noticed if one reports their methods or an experiment and it if differs from some one's method there is often a very stern warning about how dangerous the act was...

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I have small pistol primed and large pistol primed cases in .45acp.

I have been meaning to do a quasi-scientific velocity and reliability test using quickdraw wax/plastic bullets and small pistol, small pistol magnum, small rifle, small rifle magnum, large pistol, large pistol magnum, large rifle, and large rifle magnum primers in the .45acp cases.

I still need to horsetrade for a couple of types of primers I generally don't keep onhand.

I think it would be a fun safe experiment to do, especially using the somewhat uniform commercial fastdraw style wax bullets shot from one of my .45acp revolvers.

I recently did an experiment using a .38spl and homemade wax bullets using the SP, SPM, and SRM. (I had no SR primers for the test.)

All worked fine in a post-WWII M&P snubby I was using. The SP primers of course propelled the wax bullets the slowest and tended to group OK. The SPM primers were faster and tended to group better. By the time I got to the SRM primers the temperature here was already into the mid 90's and the wax bullets had softened up a bit. The SRM primers shot them considerably the fastest but they caused the softened wax bullets to group horribly and even come apart.

That's when I vowed to try this experiment with both small and large pistol primer .45acp cases with the more uniform and (hardened) commercial wax bullets on a cooler temp day!

It was fun while it lasted but I found out real quick I needed a cooler day or a wax bullet formula that hold up to warmer temps.

I should probably order those .45 caliber fastdraw wax bullets soon. Maybe today.

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Old 10-19-2020, 02:18 PM
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I've noticed if one reports their methods or an experiment and it if differs from some one's method there is often a very stern warning about how dangerous the act was...
You point out your problems with the internet, forums and comments a lot. It's easy for me to spot when you do it because you are a looooong time poster on another forum where you and I both discuss handloading and have for a long time.

I find it ironic that you have so much contempt for what is offered and shared in forums given how much time you've spent in this mix.

I've found everything you've ever offered in these discussions over literally years to be of fantastic value except for the seemingly increasing volume of complaints that you have for everything about forums, posts and discussions that you hold in contempt.

I've never said a word about it but in this quoted post, you are calling me out. That's fine, your prerogative, but be fair and accurate about it. I don't think my "warning" was overly stern -- I opined that it was not a good idea and I offered a better idea. The poster laid out the situation as the first time he's over done this, I've done it many dozens of times and of course, you've done it more, etc etc, I know your resume.

You might consider taking a look at what you get from gun forums and specifically from handloading forums. Because if we go by what you say, these are getting to be a burden for you. I would opine that they don't have to be. It's a fantastic skill to separate the wheat from the chaff, certainly by this point you have the requisite skill to do it. If you feel you need more practice, I recommend the LOUNGE area of this site because the chaff in that forum is overwhelming.

If all I ever heard from you were the complaints, I'd save the bandwidth. But that's miles from the truth. You've been one of my favorite reads for YEARS on the other forum. I'd like to see you enjoy more of the time that you spend on these forums.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:01 PM
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I found a cracked .45 ACP case after I'd primed it. I stuffed it in my 4566 and pulled the trigger. Yes, surprisingly loud. I spared my carpet, scrap or otherwise.
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Old 10-19-2020, 04:01 PM
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I saw a news item on TV news last year about some people that found a blasting cap in a shed on property they bought. Reported to sheriff who reported to capital. They sent bomb guys from Army base. They put charge on cap and blew it. I bet bomb guys got a kick out of that. Probably two days travel and hotel stay with some nice grub. A couple years ago some people found partial case of old dynamite in old garage 10 mi from my house. Garage sits right on state highway. Small village of maybe 100. The state bomb squad was called in. They shut highway down and decided the garage had to be burned down to destroy dynamite safely. That shut down cause many people to have to detour 20mile or more. The population was put up and fed at state expense when they evacuated the village. This is mining country, 20 men living in that village could have taken care of problem in short order and wouldn’t have burnt down the garage. Point is don’t make a big deal out of nothing. I wouldn’t point a gun just shooting a primer at anything or anybody. You never know when a small particle might fly out and hit somebody. A carpet scrap would make excellent stop for anything that flew. As far as starting a fire, every time you turn on and off switches you are taking that chance. Noise from primer, bang, big deal, put on your ear muffs if you need them. This CV-19 must be having people looking to make problems out of nothing. Reminds me of the Tombstone movie. The Faro dealer is aggravated by inept and compares them to playing cards with brothers kids.
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Probably as I age my tolerance for rudeness is waning. Yes, you're right, I seem to be pointing out stupid posts now a bit more, but the frequency is no where near the amount of pointless posts I read. One of my main concerns is new/newer reloaders frequent reloading forums a lot. It can be detrimental to them to read some of the old wives tales, forum "experts", "Chicken Little" thinkers and plain old Baloney. Most haven't gotten their "BS Filter" functioning well enough to separate the facts, worthwhile comments from the BS. So, I may point out forum experts' posts (and at least I don't mention names most of the time) for no other reason than giving a new reloader a heads up on what is just an old wives tale, over the top "safety warnings" or baloney.

BTW; Not contempt, not my problems as I couldn't care less what tools, equipment or methods anyone uses, but a lot is harmful to new reloaders' education. But keep on analyzing my posts, I need a laugh once in a while and Sevens, I didn't read your name on the post, and I didn't single you out, I just hinted on a comment, not actually quoting you.

But in all fairness, in the future I'll analyze each post I read and consider the poster's feelings and if the post contributed anything to the thread, if I may...

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