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Old 01-06-2021, 04:55 PM
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Local shop had powder and 158 gr 357 lead swc. And stopped at another shop who had large pistol primers. 1000 for $40....still can't find small pistol primers.

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Old 01-06-2021, 07:05 PM
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1000 LPP for $40 is an excellent price.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:28 PM
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1000 LPP for $40 is an excellent price.
With my apologies: NOT FOR ME IT ISN'T.... I'll stop shooting before I'll pay rip-off prices

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:31 PM
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$.04 per seemed ok to me

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:35 PM
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I'd pay the 40, but I won't sell mine for 40. Like fire wood, I work too hard all summer to sell at any price.
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Not sure why $40 would be considered a rip off. I have 1000 count boxes that I paid $36 before the apocalypse.
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With my apologies: NOT FOR ME IT ISN'T.... I'll stop shooting before I'll pay rip-off prices

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it is hard to swallow double prices but......
4 cents for a primer, 4 cents for powder 5 cents for brass 15 cents for a bullet =28 cents around. brass can be reused 15 cents for a bullet is on the high end and you can cast your own, so 28 cents a round is a high estimate.
if you want to talk about rip off prices think if you didn't reload=75 cents to a buck a round
I look at it like now reloading really pays...
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Old 01-06-2021, 09:23 PM
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During the early part of the pandemic, like in May-June, Sportsman's Warehouse was selling primers $25-$30/1000, depending on size and type of primer. I bought a few thousand, not thinking supply would dry up so fast. Like everyone else, I still need more SPP.
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Old 01-06-2021, 09:51 PM
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it is hard to swallow double prices but......
4 cents for a primer, 4 cents for powder 5 cents for brass 15 cents for a bullet =28 cents around. brass can be reused 15 cents for a bullet is on the high end and you can cast your own, so 28 cents a round is a high estimate.
if you want to talk about rip off prices think if you didn't reload=75 cents to a buck a round
I look at it like now reloading really pays...
I cast my bullets from wheel weights I have scrounged for nothing. So $.13 a round, and even then since I don't shoot real boomer loads, the brass lasts a long long time.
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:01 PM
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Those are not rip-off prices.
If the dealer sold them cheaper at last yearís prices, quick buck makers would be buying them up and taking them around to other gun stores and their buddyís houses and selling them for $2 per 100 more than they paid for them.
The dealer pays for the store, light bill, insurance, property and other taxes, and possibly employee wages, while the fast buck artist blows in, scoops up the merchandise, and sells it down the road with no overhead or financial risk.

Due to recent developments over the last few hours, $8 per hundred will seem cheap. For a long time.

Think ammo is hard to get now?
We havenít seen anything yet.

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Old 01-06-2021, 10:37 PM
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Due to recent developments over the last few hours, $8 per hundred will seem cheap. For a long time.

Think ammo is hard to get now?
We havenít seen anything yet.
I'd buy as many as I could find for .08 each
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:59 PM
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A year ago we were paying $125 for a case.
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Old 01-06-2021, 11:05 PM
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Local shop had powder and 158 gr 357 lead swc. And stopped at another shop who had large pistol primers. 1000 for $40....still can't find small pistol primers.

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Old 01-07-2021, 07:22 AM
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I`d pay more than $ 40 for primers if only I could find any. Heck, I`d pay a $40 finders fee for some ! Lol
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Old 01-07-2021, 08:37 AM
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For months the only primers found in any of my local shops are Federal LP or LR. They are averaging $70/brick so if you need primers, 40 isn’t a bad price.
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Old 01-07-2021, 08:55 AM
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Primers and bullets are still pretty much made from "unobtainium" here in Middle Georgia. Some rifle bullets available but no pistol bullets. No primers of any type. Being a small town, we only have one LGS that carries reloading supplies and that's mostly powder now. I did luck out and scored 250 .38 caliber 158 grain JHPs from Everglades ammo recently. A month ago, the LGS had a few Winchester LPs going for $9.99 for a pack of 100.
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Just received my order of 2,000 147gr 9mm bullets from Chey-Cast Bullets. These are Hi-Tek coated, $80 per 1000. Shipping was free for 2,000, got them 3 days after they were shipped, 5 days after I ordered them, via USPS no less! A friend uses them and says they shoot real well.
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Old 01-07-2021, 10:27 AM
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I`d pay more than $ 40 for primers if only I could find any. Heck, I`d pay a $40 finders fee for some ! Lol
If I could find primers for $40/1000 I'd buy 10k of them without any hesitation. If I could get small primers for that price I'd buy 20k.

My LGS got in some SRP's (CCI #41) last week, the first primers he's had in ages. They are $150/1000 and limited to only 300/customer. He's not having any problem selling them. I'll keep going back each week and buying my limit for as long as he has them even though I am far from out of primers. I anticipate the situation only getting worse and I want to be able to keep shooting every week.
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Old 01-07-2021, 09:10 PM
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A year ago we were paying $125 for a case.
The world has changed immeasurably since last year.
2021 will be worse.
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Old 01-07-2021, 09:20 PM
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I don't understand all the outrage over the price of components or ammo. It doesn't matter how much they cost last week, last month, or last year. What matters, if you need them, is what they cost TODAY. They will never go back down to the price of yesterday.
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I don't understand all the outrage over the price of components or ammo. It doesn't matter how much they cost last week, last month, or last year. What matters, if you need them, is what they cost TODAY. They will never go back down to the price of yesterday.
The outrage is the price gouging over the set prices by some, not all dealers. I have a friend in Western Pa. that is still paying $10.99 a box for 9MM. The local dealer here in Florida is charging $35.00 for the same box of 9MM. That to me is price gouging. The prices will go back down with time, but will they go back to 2019 prices.....that I doubt. The saving grace to me is that I had stocked up before this hit.
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My lgs just got in CCI LPP in stock (along with several pallets of 5.56 and pistol ammo, but that's a different story). They called everyone on their want list and the price was $40/1000, 2 case limit. They still had 20+ bricks on the shelf today.

I'm still waiting for Federal SPPs--I'll gladly take the limit but the wait list is about a dozen pages long (the 5.56 wait list is about 80-90 pages long!)
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1000 LPP for $40 is an excellent price.
Last week at Sportsmanís Warehouse I picked up:

2x 1000 federal small rifle @ $23 per 1000
1000 CCI large rifle @ $28 per 1000
1000 CCI large pistol @ $28 per 1000
The week before I picked up the last brick of Federal SPM @ $28
The above prices are before the 5% veterans discount

Itís all about timing. The feeding frenzy lasted a couple minutes. The poor worker never got em on the shelf; we grabbed em straight from a shopping cart.

One of the local shops occasionally frequently has large pistol and rifle primers at $5 per 100, with a limit of 200 of each kind.
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After the last shortage, but before the current shortage, I was paying ~$30 per thousand for primers. I can't help comparing that to the $8.95 per thousand I paid in the 1970's, or the $12 per thousand I paid in the 1990's.

With homemade cast bullets using salvaged lead, re-used cases, powder, and primers at $30 per thousand I'm still cranking out range ammo in several calibers for 5 or 6 cents per round.

I admit that I am down to my last 5000 small pistol primers and about 3000 large pistol primers, only about 8 lbs. of powder on hand, and less than 300 lbs. of lead. I can't hold out forever.
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SOME... I repeat SOME... dealers that I know personally are trying to do their best to get what they can get from distributors and service their local customers. The ones I speak of are in rural areas, one literally has a nice large modern shop surrounded by corn fields. The following I know is going on through knowing the owners and also officers who work there part time as well as being offered some of their good nature recently.

When (any caliber, but mostly the more common 9, 45, and 556) started getting scarce, every time they would get some in at what was then a normal price, someone would come in, or call and then come in, from 40, 50, 60 miles away and clean them out. It is not at all uncommon to routinely drive through the lots and see nearly half the plates from a neighboring state 60 miles from the border.

So they tried a limit. Then they started coming in car loads, each buying the limit, some multiple times a day. Most of that was winding up being sold again for twice the price or more.

Then the dealers price started going up as well.

So, with various iterations of that nonsense going on, some have taken to hard limits per purchase, putting very little on the shelf, and attempting to keep a chunk in the back for customers who buy guns and the locals that keep them afloat during normal times... and first responders in general for some, LE for almost all.

Nothing will kill a gun sale faster than not having any ammo for it in stock.

I recently (September I think) picked up a 9mm pistol and was allowed one box of 9mm 115 ball at 14.99. I was told that when that was gone at that price, that would go up as well but they were trying to sell that at the normal markup to the price paid when it arrived.

Being LE I could get 5 more from the back if I wanted it, at 21.99. Same on shelf was $40. The last time I was in that shop, last week, they still had a little in the back for gun sales, but prices were way up, and the shelves were empty unless you wanted 28ga shot shells, HIGH END HIGH DOLLAR 45-70, 45-90, etc. from a couple of the boutique high performance mfg's at $3-$5 a round. His reloading wall was empty. Not thin... EMPTY.

And still the shop was packed with first time buyers.

I was stocked up on everything except subsonic 300BLK before all this started last year, so I passed on the 9, but I did manage to pick up 1000 300BLK recently in two purchases at an LE outlet. Right place, right time, because now they have ZERO of that and most everything else.

It had to be in 2 purchases because I could not sell enough blood to get it all at once. Thankfully I planned well ahead on everything else.

I know gouging is going on. Absolutely and wide spread, but there are still some smaller privately owned places out there trying to serve their local customer base and not have their stock be hauled "in to town" to be gouged by someone else. If they know you, none of this is a secret, but if you are a first time visitor from another county, or STATE EVEN!.... not so much.
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