.380 question

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At today's gunshow here in Billings I bought an ice cream bucket of mixed brass that was mostly .380 auto...

However, the puzzler is that there were about 12 casings that have a .380 auto headstamp but are only 13.35 mm long.....

Any clues anyone? What cartridge might this be?

Randy
 

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A revolver would make sense if the casing had a rim for extraction....this doesn't.

Randy
 
A revolver would make sense if the casing had a rim for extraction....this doesn't.

Randy

Yeah or a shoulder in the chamber for the mouth of the case to rest on, like revolvers for the .45 ACP. Maybe .380 shot shells with a long plastic container for shot. Maybe some training ammo with a long wooden bullet?
 
That is short. There are a few oddball 380/9mm rounds out there, uncommon. You could compare case length then look some up? Without researching I haven’t a clue.
 
My BFF uses 9x19 Lugar, expanded and trimmed for 9 Makarov, I don't have any idea what it would do to a 380! But, whatever it was worked, there are 12 fired cases and apparently no unfired cases.

Ivan
 
Thanks everyone for trying to solve this baffler....the casings now reside in my salvage box.

Randy
 
I believe they are cases modified for the 9mm Katzenjammer round - the pistols were made for shooting unwanted feral house cats in Germany... these were very low velocity rounds with sponge rubber bullets, designed to startle and discourage the cat, not kill it. Very rare and almost unknown here. Quite esoteric. The pistols were made by a firm known as "RousKat" that went broke not very long after its founding...

John
 
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