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Old 02-19-2021, 10:48 AM
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Thinking of doing the same for .45 ACP as I am doing for .38 Special ( Thinking of sticking to one loading........... ). I use a lot of 3.5 grains of Bullseye with a 185 grain SWC. What is your favorite load? Not looking for combat loads as I am just punching paper.
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My universal target and Cowboy load is:

Mixed brass

WLP primer, but any will do

200 RNFP cast bullet

5.5 gr of WW231.

It works great in The Marlin Camp 45, 3-Sig 220's, 5-1911's, 1917 S&W and the 5" 625. My brother uses it in his 4-1911's too, but I think that's because it is my ammo!

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I used the same charge in 45's loaded with Starr of Indianapolis' 185 SWC/HP, Until they went out of business!

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Old 02-19-2021, 11:13 AM
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My cast 230 gr bullets pushed by 5.2 grs of WW#231.......Use same load in auto rim cases with same bullets.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:18 AM
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200 gr 4.8 gr w231
230 gr 4.3 gr w231
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I've never gotten quite the accuracy with 231 that I have with Bullseye in the .45 ACP. I use only cast bullets. With the 200 grain SWC, I use either 3.7 Bullseye for target or 5 Bullseye for full power. Accuracy of the two is about equal but the 3.7 load is more comfortable to shoot.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:45 AM
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45acp loads: 230 FMJ 5.4 - 5.7grs W231 , 4.6 - 5.0 Bullseye
200 LSWC 4.6 - 4.8grs W231 , 3.8 - 4.2grs Bullseye
185 JHP Nosler / Zero 4.5 - 4.8grs Bullseye

Never could get the Nosler 185 to shoot well with W 231 . 4.5 BE , 4.3 - 4.5 VVN 310 & 4.6 - 4.8 WST worked best in my wadguns @ 50yds . Used to shoot either 3.8 Bullseye or 4.6 W231 with the swaged Star or Zero 200 SWC , 3.6 - 3.7 VVN 310 also accurate . Cast H&G 68 200 4.2grs Bullseye @ 50yds , 3.5grs @ 25yds for T&R . Swaged 185's with 3.9 Bullseye or 4.2 WST . All these are 2700 paper punchin' loads , won't find 'em in no manual .
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Thinking of doing the same for .45 ACP as I am doing for .38 Special ( Thinking of sticking to one loading........... ). I use a lot of 3.5 grains of Bullseye with a 185 grain SWC. What is your favorite load? Not looking for combat loads as I am just punching paper.
I use 4 grains of Bullseye under a 185 gr. Nosler JHP or Speer TMJ SWC as my dedicated load for 45 bullseye competition.

This load will not work in most stock 45s. My Gold Cup has the lightened slide and a 11 lb recoil spring.

Works well and low recoil/blast.
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Old 02-19-2021, 11:50 AM
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I load just like Ivan with 3.5 gr of Bullseye with the Star 185 SWCHP. I am down to my last case of these so I need to find a replacement. Good Luck
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I use 5.0 of 231 with a 200gr cast swc.
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I use 4 grains of Bullseye under a 185 gr. Nosler JHP or Speer TMJ SWC as my dedicated load for 45 bullseye competition.

This load will not work in most stock 45s. My Gold Cup has the lightened slide and a 11 lb recoil spring.

Works well and low recoil/blast.
A long time ago with a Match Gun that I built from parts, I used 3.0 grains of Bullseye with the 185 grain SWC. No lightened slide, but I did have an 8 pound spring in it. That shot one hole groups for me. I was a lot younger then and could hold'em & squeeze'em!
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45 ACP - 185 gr. cast SWC - pet target load

4.1 grs. Bullseye @ 730 fps

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In the early 80's before I cast my own bullets<boolits>I tested your load all one day from 3 25-2s with Bullseye-231-and Unique at 25 yards with Bullx bullets. I gave up on Unique pretty quick because it was dirtier and the groups weren't as good. 3.5 -4.8 was the powder range. After about 50 targets of 10 shots each with 185 and 200 gr swc they were very close to the same. When I measured the groups I think Bullseye won out by maybe 1/8 inch. I would say if you have the right load they are equal. I didn't have a bullseye 1911 back then but I have a few now. In my opinion 3.5 of Bullseye is a little hotter than 3.5 of 231. I use 4.5 of Bullseye and 4.7 of 231 for my best target loads with a 1911. Now days I have added American Select. It takes about the same charge and does as good. I never shoot a hot load in my target 1911's. Not even a factory load.

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I have several 45 ACP loads with Bullseye and W231 with various size bullets and "needs". But my "Just in Case" ammo for my 45 ACPs is the classic 5.0 gr. Bullseye under a 230 gr FMJ. Depending on my gun, I get from 840-850 fps to just under 1,000 fps. This load performs quite well in my 3, 45 ACPs and I keep about 1,000-1,200 on hand, Just in Case...
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My favorite load with the 185 gr. swaged SWCHP is 4.0 grains of Bullseye with a .470" crimp. My favorite 50 yard match load from an accurized 1911 is 4.5 gr. of Bullseye under a Nosler 185 gr. JHP. My favorite plinking load for my Springfield Armory Trophy Match is 4.6 gr. of Bullseye under a 200 gr. Precision coated SWC, with a .470" crimp.
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I use 4.8 gr of Bullseye and a 230 gr Berry's plated LRN. Very accurate and doesn't kick too badly out of a 1917.
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Thinking of doing the same for .45 ACP as I am doing for .38 Special ( Thinking of sticking to one loading........... ). I use a lot of 3.5 grains of Bullseye with a 185 grain SWC. What is your favorite load? Not looking for combat loads as I am just punching paper.
This is a great accuracy load at 25 yards. I used this in bullseye matches. You nailed it. I got this from a bullseye shooter

3.5 grains of Bullseye
OAL of 1.255
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185 grain SWC

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This is a great accuracy load at 25 yards. I used this in bullseye matches. You nailed it. I got this from a bullseye shooter

3.5 grains of Bullseye
OAL of 1.255
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185 grain SWC
Thanks. I just loaded 600 rounds of that particular load.
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I have only one 45 acp , a 1911 Sig Saueer , my sweetheart bought for me as a bday present . I shoot only 230 gr bullets and use either 5.0 grs of Bullseye or 4.9 grs of WST . They shoot very accurately so I don't need to fix what isn't broken . Those are my 2 loads . Regards Paul
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I have only one 45 acp , a 1911 Sig Saueer , my sweetheart bought for me as a bday present . I shoot only 230 gr bullets and use either 5.0 grs of Bullseye or 4.9 grs of WST . They shoot very accurately so I don't need to fix what isn't broken . Those are my 2 loads . Regards Paul
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I have used the 200 gr (H&G68) cast lead SWC over 4.3 gr 231 for over 30 years. I originally developed this in my Gold Cup strictly for paper punching and it was the most accurate of many I tried. About 6-7 years ago I decided to re-test this, and shot about a dozen different combinations of loads and the 4.3 gr behind the 200 gr SWC was still the best load (from a Ransom Rest at 25 yards). It is mild, and about 650 to 700 fps.
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I have used the 200 gr (H&G68) cast lead SWC over 4.3 gr 231 for over 30 years. I originally developed this in my Gold Cup strictly for paper punching and it was the most accurate of many I tried. About 6-7 years ago I decided to re-test this, and shot about a dozen different combinations of loads and the 4.3 gr behind the 200 gr SWC was still the best load (from a Ransom Rest at 25 yards). It is mild, and about 650 to 700 fps.
According to Quickload the velocity is 679 FPS.
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I load 230-grain MBC LRNs on top of 5.2 grains of HP-38 for my Glock 30. They function fine for range fodder. I tried 200-grain SWCs, but the G30 just won't feed them.

My 4566, on the other hand, would feed and shoot rocks powered by Mattel Stick-on caps. The G30 loads work well in it.
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I load 230-grain MBC LRNs on top of 5.2 grains of HP-38 for my Glock 30. They function fine for range fodder. I tried 200-grain SWCs, but the G30 just won't feed them.

My 4566, on the other hand, would feed and shoot rocks powered by Mattel Stick-on caps. The G30 loads work well in it.
IIRC, it is/was Greenie Stick-um Caps. I used them in a Hubley Colt .45, still have the pair my Parents gave me in 1958.
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H & G 200 gr SWC with 5.7 WW231. Makes major and I have shot this load since 1976. Very accurate in all My 1911s.
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I have reloaded several thousand 45 ACPs for 3 different guns using the "classic" 45 ACP load; 5.0 gr. of Bullseye under a 230 gr FMJ. My second 45 ACP load is a 200 gr. SWC over 5.9-6.3 gr. of Universal for some very accurate loads. I have also used Dave's W231 load above and it was also a very good load in my 1911s...

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