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Old 07-20-2021, 09:23 AM
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FYI - Midway has the following primers:

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CCI #41



All were in stock as of 08:15 this AM (20-July-2021).



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Old 07-20-2021, 09:28 AM
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Must be a misprint. At that price it must be for 5000 primers.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:29 AM
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$75 - $77 per 1000 lge and small pistol

I DON'T THINK SO..... but "thanks anyway"

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Old 07-20-2021, 09:40 AM
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Yeah, I got a notification from Midway about primers. $75.00/1K is a bit steep right now. That price point may become the “new norm” but until then, I’ll wait.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:47 AM
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I jumped at it and was grateful to be able get some 41s at all when I had none before.

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Old 07-20-2021, 09:48 AM
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Yeah, I got a notification from Midway about primers. $75.00/1K is a bit steep right now. That price point may become the “new norm” but until then, I’ll wait.
My non-gouging LGS sold me CCI SPPs for $6.25/100, limit 300. He used to charge $4. I assume 6 is the new normal, till the next economic crash anyway.
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Thanks for the heads up. They’re higher than old prices but way cheaper than gun show prices.
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Thanks Skyhunter! I bought a box of 150's.
Not sure why people need to respond negatively? I guess it's all about post count.
$.11 primer, a little powder and a cast bullet beats the heck out of not shooting and still pretty cheep entertainment.
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Primers are now as expensive as bullets. Hoodathunkit?
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I saw primers at a gun show two weeks ago. They were asking $150-175 per 1,000.
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Thanks Skyhunter. I was notified by Midway but saw your post first. Ordered some around 8:40AM and they're on their way.

I have no idea what the "new normal" will settle out to be regarding prices for various reloading components but doubt that it will ever be like the "good old days." I still marvel at the price stickers on my older cans of powder and primer boxes. If you have all you need for the foreseeable future; congratulations for that foresight.

Personally I don't consider Midway's prices to be ridiculous as it's all relative and primer availability around here is non-existent. I bought a thousand large pistol primers for $125 at a gun show a year ago and that was the best price I'd seen in 10 months. Heck; it was the only time I'd seen them in 10 months. I took the only box the guy had.

Despite some evidence that component availability is getting "better" there is surely the possibility that the current administration and political "leadership" could enact policies that make things worse. Let's hope not - but hope is not a strategy. I'm not buying tons of primers at these prices but it's nice to have a little inventory to keep pulling the press lever.
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We spend tens of thousands of dollars or more on guns then we choke when loading supplies and ammo are at a premium. It really comes down to how much do you want to shoot or are you content just looking at your guns.

I have plenty of large and small pistol primers but didn’t have any magnum spp. One box will last me for a long time so I’m not going to let $45-55 difference in old and new price stand in my way of having fun. It’s the same with 22 ammo. I’ve been buying direct from CCI and federal. I’ll gladly pay retail for 22’s and continue to shoot. Even at retail 22’s are a bargain.

When supply catches up and there’s a glut of supplies / ammo, prices will drop then stock up because this will happen again.
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$7.60 a 100 is getting better........
thanks for the heads up but I willl still just........

keep buying worms, at this time.
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At the gunshow this weekend all brands of primers were running $130/1000.
Picked up a 1000 large and small pistol at a small LGS for $40 and $30 this month, all old stock he had forgotten he had.

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Back in the Dark days of the Clinton era, when going forward, ALL primers would have a "limited shelf-life" (Remember THAT Hog-wash story?), I decided to NEVER be without a sufficient supply of components - EVER!

So, I am in good shape and will be for quite some time.

Although Midway's prices are about double the price of what I paid the last time I bought primers (something like two years ago!), They Are available NOW. And for those who didn't stock up, I was just trying "to help my brother out".

If you're in good shape and don't need'em - so be it.

If you need some, here's a chance to procure some.

n'uff said. Y'all have a great day, I gotta go cast some projectiles for my .41 mag. children.

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Got these the other day. From my undisclosed location.

$32.00 tax included, per Brick (1000 primers).

I will keep up the Tradition, buy them when you see them.
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Thanks Skyhunter! I bought a box of 150's.
Not sure why people need to respond negatively? I guess it's all about post count.
$.11 primer, a little powder and a cast bullet beats the heck out of not shooting and still pretty cheep entertainment.
No, it's not about post count.

Every price is an opportunity to cast a vote. Many of us feel that $75 deserves a very strong NO! vote.

Every person that buys has made their vote that "yes, I will pay that high price." As long as enough people vote "yes", the price will stay high. Only until very few people vote "yes", that's where the price will stay.

Anyone posting here that doesn't like the price and won't support it is just casting their vote in the discussion. Nobody can tell you how to vote -- much like you aren't going to tell any of us what our opinion should be and how we'll express it.

Six months ago I watched a guy at a show count out $880 to get four thousand primers. Everyone that was anywhere near was disgusted, possibly excluding the seller. At that moment, two people agreed that a single primer was worth 22 cents.

Those two people might have been the only two people that entire day that agreed on that lunacy. Your mileage may vary.

On Saturday... I made a vote that I wasn't entirely proud of, I spent $50 for one thousand Remington 1-1/2 small pistol primers. That's double what I like to pay for primers. I suppose I had to make allowances. I see that some in this thread have had to make allowances also. And maybe our numbers don't like up exactly. But that's okay. If you pay $75 for a thousand of them to Midway... you'll be adding on shipping, hazmat and tax too. If you can stomach that, all is well I suppose.

The discussion has merit.
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No, it's not about post count.

Every price is an opportunity to cast a vote. Many of us feel that $75 deserves a very strong NO! vote.

Every person that buys has made their vote that "yes, I will pay that high price." As long as enough people vote "yes", the price will stay high. Only until very few people vote "yes", that's where the price will stay.

Anyone posting here that doesn't like the price and won't support it is just casting their vote in the discussion. Nobody can tell you how to vote -- much like you aren't going to tell any of us what our opinion should be and how we'll express it.

Six months ago I watched a guy at a show count out $880 to get four thousand primers. Everyone that was anywhere near was disgusted, possibly excluding the seller. At that moment, two people agreed that a single primer was worth 22 cents.

Those two people might have been the only two people that entire day that agreed on that lunacy. Your mileage may vary.

On Saturday... I made a vote that I wasn't entirely proud of, I spent $50 for one thousand Remington 1-1/2 small pistol primers. That's double what I like to pay for primers. I suppose I had to make allowances. I see that some in this thread have had to make allowances also. And maybe our numbers don't like up exactly. But that's okay. If you pay $75 for a thousand of them to Midway... you'll be adding on shipping, hazmat and tax too. If you can stomach that, all is well I suppose.

The discussion has merit.
I rarely do a "like" but this post surely merited one.

I truly love the Potterfields and have been doing business with them since they first went into business. This may not be price gouging in the full sense of the word, but it comes close. I only hope that the current price is merely to discourage the hoarders so that the very few that did not prepare will at least have a source.

I guess some of the negative posters here don't know about the "CTD" debacle, or just like them anyway.

Bottom line is that this is just a forum for opinions and if you don't like mine.....well, then you are just wrong.....LOL....(jokingly)
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No, it's not about post count.

Every price is an opportunity to cast a vote. Many of us feel that $75 deserves a very strong NO! vote.

Every person that buys has made their vote that "yes, I will pay that high price." As long as enough people vote "yes", the price will stay high. Only until very few people vote "yes", that's where the price will stay.

Anyone posting here that doesn't like the price and won't support it is just casting their vote in the discussion. Nobody can tell you how to vote -- much like you aren't going to tell any of us what our opinion should be and how we'll express it.

Six months ago I watched a guy at a show count out $880 to get four thousand primers. Everyone that was anywhere near was disgusted, possibly excluding the seller. At that moment, two people agreed that a single primer was worth 22 cents.

Those two people might have been the only two people that entire day that agreed on that lunacy. Your mileage may vary.

On Saturday... I made a vote that I wasn't entirely proud of, I spent $50 for one thousand Remington 1-1/2 small pistol primers. That's double what I like to pay for primers. I suppose I had to make allowances. I see that some in this thread have had to make allowances also. And maybe our numbers don't like up exactly. But that's okay. If you pay $75 for a thousand of them to Midway... you'll be adding on shipping, hazmat and tax too. If you can stomach that, all is well I suppose.

The discussion has merit.
WHAT HE SAID.....
It certainly isn't about post count....
Supply and demand is controllable..... BY US.... vote with your feet (run away from these prices)
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Got these the other day. From my undisclosed location.

$32.00 tax included, per Brick (1000 primers).

I will keep up the Tradition, buy them when you see them.
What’s the address of this “undisclosed location”? 😎😁
Might be worth the drive.
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Last primers I saw at the LGS was $80.00 per 1000. That was about 3 weeks ago. Haven’t had any since.
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Went on Midway to check out what they had. Found some CFE223 powder. Put 2 in my shopping cart and looked for what else I could get to offset the shipping. By the time I was ready to check out, the powder was going, going, LONG GONE. Absolutely crazy.
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I've been buying primers recently by the 100's at about $6/100. I won't buy a brick for $75 because by the time I use half of them, the price will come down. It's almost like cost averaging.
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I am not a hoarder, however, I am an opportunistic threshold buyer. I always have enough components to ride out any "crisis" but it always frosts me when I see the ridiculous panic prices. I have always helped my friends through the hard times by donating to them what they need to make it through the tough times. I still haven't dropped below my threshold and I get beer and Costco chicken as a reward, so it all works out.
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Prices are still high right now, but at least it looks like supply is starting to come back. If people need them, they can at least get them.
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I long for the days when a brick of 5,000 primers cost under $100. Those days will never return. If I can find a brick for $200 I'll buy but not for more. Luckily I can still shoot without paying the extreme prices being charged today. I'm no sure what I would pay if I ran out of primers and hopefully I won't have to find out!
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Everyone expects prices to drop.
'nuff said.

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After loading up a bunch of 9mm I went to start on some .38's. I went to pull another brick of primers today and decided I'd shoot up my non-Winchester stuff first. I found this. I usually prefer Winchester (for no particular reason really) but I have to say the Remingtons come in a nice compact box. Unlike the Federal primers that come in a huuuuge box. What's up with that anyway? I have to say though that in my experience with American primers they are hard to tell apart, performance wise.

If I recall I bought them because of the packaging and they were $3 cheaper than the Winchesters at the time. Which must have been....2015? when I bought these.

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During one of the boom and bust cycles in the oil patch in the 80s I saw a bumper sticker that read "Lord, please give us one more boom and this time I promise to save some". Same principle.
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Primers are just about the only reloading component one can't reliably manufacture or easily acquire currently...

If that's really all you need to continue reloading, picking up a couple thousand cci No. 41s at a dime a round might just seem like a bargain when steel case .223s are in the $0.50 range and the alternative is NO BANG! regardless of the Bucks!

Or, for freeing up a couple thousand No.400s already in your inventory (stash?) for duty in your pistol & revolver calibers...?

Cheers!

P.S. Not totally unlike the purchase of that GIANT! 16 oz. watered-down Bud Light at the ballpark for $5.00... What's a guy gonna get to wash down his $5.00 hot dog?

P.P.S. Skyhunter: THANKS! for the heads-up, Brother!

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Nobody can accuse me of needing to pad my post count, so I’ll speak freely. I’m a sometimes hoarder and like to have a little extra backlog in primers, powder and lead (to cast my own bullets as needed). I actually had plenty of primers to make it through the foreseeable future, but as the panic began, I picked up 3000 CCI SPPs from an estate for $20/1000 and immediately traded 1000 for some factory ammo to reinforce my supply.

A few months later I had the opportunity to buy about all the Federal SPPs I wanted for $42/thou, so I figured the writing was on the wall in big letters, so I bought another thou and made sure my brother stocked up as well.

As luck and timing would have it, I was already fat in most powders and all kinds of pure lead and alloys, so unless I defy all odds for longevity, I should be good for the rest of my life. Now I can worry about other things!

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Nobody can accuse me of needing to pad my post count, so I’ll speak freely. I’m a sometimes hoarder and like to have a little extra backlog in primers, powder and lead (to cast my own bullets as needed). I actually had plenty of primers to make it through the foreseeable future, but as the panic began, I picked up 3000 CCI SPPs from an estate for $20/1000 and immediately traded 1000 for some factory ammo to reinforce my supply.

A few months later I had the opportunity to buy about all the Federal SPPs I wanted for $42/thou, so I figured the writing was on the wall in big letters, so I bought another thou and made sure my brother stocked up as well.

As luck and timing would have it, I was already fat in most powders and all kinds of pure lead and alloys, so unless I defy all odds for longevity, I should be good for the rest of my life. Now I can worry about other things!

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Your story fits me to a T. Lead, rimfire ammo, brass and powder are now in lifetime supply mode. Primers are my shortcoming with only about a 5 year supply. After 3 disasters in the past 10 or so years it should be obvious what happened. When the supply comes back at reasonable prices, I guess I'll buy another lockable steel locker and put in another 10 year supply.
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I don’t buy from retailers that scalp customers by inflating retail prices. Period.

At $77 per 1000 Midway just made the “do not buy from” list and I guarantee it’ll be years before I buy anything from them again.

If the rest of you also said “No thanks” we’d very quickly have more reasonable prices.

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I rarely do a "like" but this post surely merited one.

I truly love the Potterfields and have been doing business with them since they first went into business. This may not be price gouging in the full sense of the word, but it comes close. I only hope that the current price is merely to discourage the hoarders so that the very few that did not prepare will at least have a source.

I guess some of the negative posters here don't know about the "CTD" debacle, or just like them anyway.

Bottom line is that this is just a forum for opinions and if you don't like mine.....well, then you are just wrong.....LOL....(jokingly)
Midway can discourage hoarding by limiting purchases to one package of 1000 per address per day, week, month, whatever. Their customer data base can track and interface with the current order side.

$75 per 1000 is all about price gouging because they think enough people will pay it to sell what they have on hand and maximize profits.
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I don’t understand why anyone is paying these prices. It’s not like primers are food. Very bizarre behavior to me. To each their own. Clearly it makes tons of sense to some folks.
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Thanks Skyhunter! I bought a box of 150's.
Not sure why people need to respond negatively? I guess it's all about post count.
$.11 primer, a little powder and a cast bullet beats the heck out of not shooting and still pretty cheep entertainment.
Those are usually people who are sitting on a stash of primers and want you to go without to drive the price down. So they can increase their stockpile.
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I don’t understand why anyone is paying these prices. It’s not like primers are food. Very bizarre behavior to me. To each their own. Clearly it makes tons of sense to some folks.
Out of curiosity, how's your ammo and primer stash?
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I long for the days when a brick of 5,000 primers cost under $100. Those days will never return. If I can find a brick for $200 I'll buy but not for more. Luckily I can still shoot without paying the extreme prices being charged today. I'm no sure what I would pay if I ran out of primers and hopefully I won't have to find out!
If you ran out of primers I bet you'd pay the $75. I agree, let's hope you don't find out.

For the record, I paid a hundred.
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Despite some evidence that component availability is getting "better" there is surely the possibility that the current administration and political "leadership" could enact policies that make things worse.
This, exactly. We all have to decide where our comfort level is and how confident we are that it will continue to improve.

I went into this assuming we'd never see primers on the shelf again. Despite current circumstances, my view hasn't really changed.
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People that think primer prices are going to return to the level of a few years ago are dreaming unless someone comes up with a new idea.

Labor, raw material, energy cost continue to climb with no signs of slowing. Labor being the six hundred pound Gorilla

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I don’t understand why anyone is paying these prices. It’s not like primers are food. Very bizarre behavior to me. To each their own. Clearly it makes tons of sense to some folks.
Obviously the demand is greater than the supply and the costs are accepted.

Reality is probably that primers are going to cost closer to $75/1000 than $35 like before.

When you need them again, you'll likely be paying those prices too, or quitting shooting.

One or the other.
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Midway can discourage hoarding by limiting purchases to one package of 1000 per address per day, week, month, whatever. Their customer data base can track and interface with the current order side.

$75 per 1000 is all about price gouging because they think enough people will pay it to sell what they have on hand and maximize profits.
How do you know what Midway's cost on the primers is?

Where did you get that info?

Could you share it with us?

Thanks.
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I don’t buy from retailers that scalp customers by inflating retail prices. Period.

At $77 per 1000 Midway just made the “do not buy from” list and I guarantee it’ll be years before I buy anything from them again.

If the rest of you also said “No thanks” we’d very quickly have more reasonable prices.
How do you know Midway's cost on the primers?

Could you share with us?

Thanks.

Midway is one of the best promoters of the shooting sports that we have. Real genius idea to go and boycott them because they are selling primers for 25% less than we've been seeing them lately.
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[QUOTE=SLT223;141211131 It’s not like primers are food. Very bizarre behavior to me. To each their own. Clearly it makes tons of sense to some folks.[/QUOTE]

Don't bet on today being the future. In the future primers might be traded for food or protect your food. Not knowing the future and considering the things some have saw in the past year is why it makes sense too some folks. Larry
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Out of curiosity, how's your ammo and primer stash?
What does is it matter? You don’t have to reload or shoot. It’s not a necessity, so why pay crazy high prices?
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What does is it matter? You don’t have to reload or shoot. It’s not a necessity, so why pay crazy high prices?
It matters a lot if someone sitting on a hoard is telling the rest of us not to buy in order to drive prices back to the level they want.

The context of the opinion matters a lot.
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What does is it matter? You don’t have to reload or shoot. It’s not a necessity, so why pay crazy high prices?
So I should not shoot for a year because I pay 30 more dollars than usual for a brick of primers?

Nope, I can afford it and I'll choose to still buy. The prices would need to get a lot higher before I decided not to shoot for a year.
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I usually don't post what I have but I want to make a point. After the shortage before the President Obama administration I loaded up on powder and primers when the prices came down to almost normal. I still have 16,000 SPP and a good supply of W231 and H4895. I think I bought at the right time. I think the primers cost me between $22 and $25/k.

If you truly feel $75/k for primers will be the new normal I would stock up when you find them for less that $75/k.

Good luck to all who are running out. I know how it feels because it happened to me but only once. I seriously feel your pain.
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ONE MORE TIME.....

There is only ONE WAY to control prices.... cease the DEMAND.

DON'T BUY..........

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