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09-02-2021, 06:53 PM
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Comments on MBC's 44mag 300gr "Hammer" bullet?
I'm needing to buy some 44mag fodder and Missouri Bullet Company has the best prices. The 18bhn WFN-like 300gr hammer looks to be good. But before I buy, I'd like to hear from others.
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09-02-2021, 07:04 PM
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I’ve used the .45 caliber version of the same bullet. The accuracy was good but I got pretty heavy leading with loads at 1100 fps. Shot cleaner at 1000 fps.
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09-02-2021, 07:47 PM
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I have a similar bullet mold, I cast with quenched wheel weights. The thing is a flying sledge hammer on steel targets! I lube the unsized at .431" in a Super 14" Contender! and at .430" for my 8 3/8" 29 Classic! I like WW296/H 110.
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09-02-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMuddy
I’ve used the .45 caliber version of the same bullet. The accuracy was good but I got pretty heavy leading with loads at 1100 fps. Shot cleaner at 1000 fps.
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Was that with the HiTek coated?
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09-02-2021, 08:56 PM
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It is a big chunk of lead, without question!
A WFN 300gr coated vs. a 305gr GC shouldn't be much different: what powders and starting loads were you envisioning? Shooting them from what? Uh, AT what?
Cheers!
P.S. I've been led to believe that a WFN 300gr at 1K is probably sufficient for anything walking on 4 (or 2 legs) on the North American Continent...? At an appropriate range, of course!
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09-02-2021, 10:28 PM
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For years now all my cast bullets have been bought from the Missouri Bullet Company.
For years now all my jacketed bullets have been bought from RMR.
Both companies deliver a very high quality bullet at a fair price and are very nice people to deal with.
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09-03-2021, 05:24 AM
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Was that with the HiTek coated?
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No it was not.
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09-03-2021, 08:30 AM
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I'd be interested in the coated ones possibly . IMHO MBC conventional lubed bullets are much harder alloy than I prefer & lube they use quite frankly sucks . 300gr at modest velocities will shoot lengthwise thru a ton of pissed off range steer or a bison . I use either a 240 XTP or Nos 240 JSP for deer , bear / hogs an LBT 260 WFNGC . IMHO for 44mag , 240 - 280gr will work for 95% of one's needs , bigger stuff go as heavy as needed for penetration desired . FWIW shorter bullets , like .810 or less seem more accurate . Kinda curious what you're gonna be chuckin' them 300gr cinderblocks at ??
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09-03-2021, 12:06 PM
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Launching these out of a 329pd. My favorite bullet was a 270gr LBT-style WFN I purchased from Leadhead bullets when they were in business. Now I can't find an LBT WFN fir under 50 cents each - and that is too rich for my blood.
MBC's "hammer" is not a WFN, more like a fat nose SWC. I'm hoping the meplat is at least .350".
I'll run these at litrle over 1000fps with 18gr of Enforcer, CCI350 primer (won't know till I Chrono some but 300gr XTP run that speed).
I like the feel of the recoil pulse of heavy/slower better than lighter/faster.
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09-03-2021, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMuddy
I’ve used the .45 caliber version of the same bullet. The accuracy was good but I got pretty heavy leading with loads at 1100 fps. Shot cleaner at 1000 fps.
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I see that the 45 Long Colt version is a true WFN.
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09-04-2021, 01:38 AM
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I like and have been shooting Oregon Trail Trueshot 310 WNFPGC bullets with a big dose of H110.
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09-04-2021, 02:18 AM
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My perusal of the Ramshot load data for Enforcer would lead me to believe 18gr with a 300gr XTP is more like 1,300 fps! Maybe "Exploder" would be a more appropriate name?
Be CAREFUL!
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09-04-2021, 10:02 AM
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Check out Matt's Bullets , he has a 325gr WFNGC .430 with a .360 meplat & .340 nose to crimp @ 28 cents a piece , also a 250gr ogival wadcutter that looks interesting . Montana Bullet Works cast the same LBT 260 WFNGC that I use . He hand casts w/ a ladle so more work @ 42 cents a piece . If one does not cast both of these make fine bullets , proper alloys & use quality lube . FWIW add Rimrock Bullets also quality product .
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Originally Posted by STORMINORMAN
My perusal of the Ramshot load data for Enforcer would lead me to believe 18gr with a 300gr XTP is more like 1,300 fps! Maybe "Exploder" would be a more appropriate name?
Be CAREFUL!
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Note the barrel length...
I've chrono'd that load at 1050fps from my 4" barrel.
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09-04-2021, 11:32 AM
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Check out Matt's Bullets , he has a 325gr WFNGC .430 with a .360 meplat & .340 nose to crimp @ 28 cents a piece , also a 250gr ogival wadcutter that looks interesting . Montana Bullet Works cast the same LBT 260 WFNGC that I use . He hand casts w/ a ladle so more work @ 42 cents a piece . If one does not cast both of these make fine bullets , proper alloys & use quality lube . FWIW add Rimrock Bullets also quality product .
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That 250gr OWC sure looks interesting. Matt's prices are pretty decent and he offers some good designs.
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09-04-2021, 08:35 PM
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Note the barrel length...
I've chrono'd that load at 1050fps from my 4" barrel.
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I failed to see that. But, still... "You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din!"
Especially in a 329 PD!
Cheers!
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I'm needing to buy some 44mag fodder and Missouri Bullet Company has the best prices. The 18bhn WFN-like 300gr hammer looks to be good. But before I buy, I'd like to hear from others.
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I’ve used them with very acceptable results. Great hog load loaded with 19gr of 296/H110 IIRC. Also makes a great carry load for a couple of 3” 44 specials loaded with CFE Pistol around 850fps
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