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Old 09-11-2021, 09:43 PM
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I looked through my five manuals, and lead bullet info is really lacking.

I have the SNS Casting HiTek coated 215gr SWCs to load.

A member here gave me a great load with Longshot, but a good friend was really desperate for a pound, and I helped him out. Looking at my powder stash thinking HP-38 is my most viable choice.

I'm not looking for barn burning velocity. Just a nice shooting load that will work to point of aim with my model 58 fixed sights. Guessing something in the 900-1000fps range will get the job done.

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Old 09-11-2021, 10:06 PM
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7.0 will run in the 850-900 fps range from a 4 barrel and very accurate.

Lots of information on .41s here...

.41 Magnum / 41 Special Load Data Center

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Old 09-12-2021, 12:15 AM
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Both powders will do well in moderate loads for your Model 58 and the 215 grain cast bullet. The original police load for the caliber was a 210 grain swaged lead bullet (leaded horribly) at 800 fps which you should be able to duplicate easily with the 231/HP38.

I've been using a 210 grain cast SWC over 8.0 grains of Unique to duplicate the load ever since I started carrying a Model 58 on the force in the early 80s.
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Old 09-12-2021, 12:48 AM
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My hard cast SWCs drop from my mold at 212 grains

I send them down range with 7 grains of 231/HP38
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I use Universal...6.0 or 6.5 gr with a 215 SWC. Loading Unique up to the point you get a complete burn would work. Universal is very close to Unique.

One thing about the .41 data, since it is originally a magnum there's little in the way of light loads listed. None of the data is what you'd call "powder-puff". I've gone below listed minimums a little with lead bullets.
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I can tell you , from personal experience that with a 210-220 gr cast bullet that 7.0 grs of HP-38 , Ramshot Zip , Accurate #2 and IMR 7625 (now discontinued ) makes exceptionally accurate loads . I felt Accurate #2 was the most impressive . One thing that I really like about Accurate #2 is that it's " not position sensitive " according to Accurate Powder Co , yet it does not burn hot , like Titegroup powder .
Last time to the range I tried 2 of Elmer Keith's load for the 41 magnum , 4.5 grs of Bullseye powder and 7.5 grs of Unique . The Bullseye load is an ideal target load . The Unique load made a real nice " shoot all day " mid range load with POA = POI for both . Of course both loads used his design 220 gr cast bullet , H&G 258 . Any cast bullet 210-220 gr will work just fine as well . Regards Paul
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Old 09-13-2021, 09:56 PM
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I use 8 grains of Unique for my 215 grain (.411) Missouri Bullet Co. Keith SWCs which was known as the "police" round and 19.5 to 20.0 grains of H110 under Nosler 210 grain (.410) JHPs which really cook! I shoot either of these in a Model 57 N-Frame with a 6" barrel.
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Since you asked about 231, it should work fine. My standard load for many years has been 7.0 of Unique and a cast swc.
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I would like to thank everyone who responded.

Picked up a nice Model 57 recently and kept my 58 NIB.

In the meantime I went with the recommended 7.0gr under a coated 215gr SWC.
This load worked beautifully - dead straight to point of aim and very accurate.
Not hot or mild - just right. Averaged a tad over 900 FPS consistently.

Appreciate the forum for all the great advice over the years. I am really going to enjoy giving this model 57 a workout and carrying it around the farm.
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I've used that one for years and have tried others but never found anything I liked better. Since I always try to have 231/HP38 on hand, it's a natural for me. That one and 19.0 grs 2400 are the extent of my .41 Magnum loading recipes. What one doesn't do, the other will.
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I would like to thank everyone who responded.

Picked up a nice Model 57 recently and kept my 58 NIB.

In the meantime I went with the recommended 7.0gr under a coated 215gr SWC.
This load worked beautifully - dead straight to point of aim and very accurate.
Not hot or mild - just right. Averaged a tad over 900 FPS consistently.

Appreciate the forum for all the great advice over the years. I am really going to enjoy giving this model 57 a workout and carrying it around the farm.
You’ll have fun with this load for pest control, the 41 packs a pretty good wallop even though your hand doesn’t feel it.

If they ever show up again, unique, aa5, and win 244 work awesome in the 41.

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