Source for oversize .44 bullets?

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Awful leading was always something that happened to other people...until now.
My recently-purchased New Century (TL) has a bore that runs from about .4315" in front of the forcing cone down to .431" at the muzzle and throats of .432". Timing looks to be extremely close, I cut a brass rod at a slip-fit for land diameter and felt no hitting or binding on the throats when locked-up, even when pressing the cylinder against it's stops.
It leads like crazy using the .430" bullets I bought before measuring throats and bores.
Yes, I *could* buy some molds and fool about with casting projectiles, but I have enough trouble finding time to go to the range and reload as it is, so I'd just as soon throw a little money at it and move on with my life.
It's a target-sighted gun, so bullet weight isn't a critical factor. In a perfect world I think I'd like to find a Keith-style SWC in the 200-220 grain weight, but really I'll take anything that fits and groups.
 
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Only ones sized .432 that IMHO are quality cast with good alloy & good lube are : Matt's Bullets has a 250gr RN LY 429251 for $22/100 , 500 /$ 105 . Montana Bullet Works hand casts & are more expensive but quality is first class has an LBT design Ogival Wadcutter Plain Base 240gr $34.85/100 , $174 / 500 & 255gr Keith SWC for $36.40 / 100 , $182 / 500 .
FWIW I've bought from both & been more than happy . Both offer a quality product for a fair price . Before I buy a mold I'll buy from these guys & if it works out then I'll buy a mold .
 
+1 for Montana. Also, be sure to get the correct BHN (bullet hardness) for the load used. You can also find that on the Montana site.
 
boatbum101 said:
Only ones sized .432 that IMHO are quality cast with good alloy & good lube are : Matt's Bullets has a 250gr RN LY 429251 for $22/100 , 500 /$ 105 . Montana Bullet Works hand casts & are more expensive but quality is first class has an LBT design Ogival Wadcutter Plain Base 240gr $34.85/100 , $174 / 500 & 255gr Keith SWC for $36.40 / 100 , $182 / 500 .
FWIW I've bought from both & been more than happy . Both offer a quality product for a fair price . Before I buy a mold I'll buy from these guys & if it works out then I'll buy a mold .
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Dang, that's well into JHP bullet price. My own fault for buying an expensive gun I guess. I'll place a few orders and see how it works out for me. Considering I usually like to ladder several different powders for any given bullet, it's not hard to burn a few hundred fully working up a load. Luckily my LPP situation isn't too dire yet or I'd really be crying about component costs!

I'm finding it frustrating that there are so many casting houses but none of them manage to be a one-stop shop for me. Even before I was looking for these .432" slugs, it seemed to take a few different outfits to cover my needs. Well, it's that or cast I guess. I can't even imagine how non-reloaders manage! Just buy boring guns I guess. :)
 
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teletech said:
Dang, that's well into JHP bullet price. My own fault for buying an expensive gun I guess. I'll place a few orders and see how it works out for me. Considering I usually like to ladder several different powders for any given bullet, it's not hard to burn a few hundred fully working up a load. Luckily my LPP situation isn't too dire yet or I'd really be crying about component costs!

I'm finding it frustrating that there are so many casting houses but none of them manage to be a one-stop shop for me. Even before I was looking for these .432" slugs, it seemed to take a few different outfits to cover my needs. Well, it's that or cast I guess. I can't even imagine how non-reloaders manage! Just buy boring guns I guess. :)
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I'm sure there are some good cast bullets available commercially, but searching to find the best for your purpose may be a chore, especially now. You may prefer not to cast your own, but casting gives a flexibility in bullet selection unavailable elsewhere.

The drawback is learning the process. It does take time, but well worth the effort if you're interested in the best in handgun accuracy and prefer not to have to settle for a bullet that's a lesser product or a good product that's not exactly what you want.
 
Transamconvert said:
Penn Bullets will size to whatever you need.
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Granted, between alloy mix and diameter, diameter is often the more critical of the two, but the alloy mix remains important for best results. If they'll also provide a choice of alloy mix or at least something that's not too hard, then that would be a good place to start if you're going to stick with a commercial source.

I don't know anything about Penn bullets, but there are always exceptions and a sample of what they have available would certainly be worth trying.
 
How much do you care about that gun???

I realize you don't cast or powder coat, but an easy way to add girth to a boolit is to PC it, and carefully lift the bullet out of the powder instead of shaking off the excess. This method easily adds several thousandths to a bullet.
You have a gun. It needs bullets. You could buy some lead bullets and soak off the lube, then PC them yourself. Or maybe they would sell you some without lube on them.
Powder coating is a very simple operation. Go over to CastBoolits.com. They will get you everything you need.

Or you could sell it and get something else. Or you could turn it into a safe queen.
Your choice.
 
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rockquarry said:
Granted, between alloy mix and diameter, diameter is often the more critical of the two, but the alloy mix remains important for best results. If they'll also provide a choice of alloy mix or at least something that's not too hard, then that would be a good place to start if you're going to stick with a commercial source.

I don't know anything about Penn bullets, but there are always exceptions and a sample of what they have available would certainly be worth trying.
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I've used him before, he's local to me. It's a small operation at his home. I think he has 2 standard alloys to choose from.
 
I know you can buy unsized, unlubed from Missouri Bullet Company. Then tumble lube them yourself. That is going to be the cheapest route. They do offer a 240gr SWC as well as other weights and profiles.
 
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If you can find a quality shop with...........
sample packs, it will cut your time down in finding what your weapon likes.

Most have Grs & Dia. as an option.

Good shopping.
 
I'd suggest measuring the cylinder throats for two reasons; first to make sure they are all larger in diameter than the groove diameter of the barrel, and second to give you the best diameter for your cast bullets. For my 7 revolvers I size all cast bullets to the same diameter as the cylinder throat diameter (bullet diameter is waaaaaaay more important than BHN!)...
 
mikld said:
I'd suggest measuring the cylinder throats for two reasons; first to make sure they are all larger in diameter than the groove diameter of the barrel, and second to give you the best diameter for your cast bullets. For my 7 revolvers I size all cast bullets to the same diameter as the cylinder throat diameter (bullet diameter is waaaaaaay more important than BHN!)...
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All throats are a nice but slightly firm sliding fit on a .432"- gauge pin, hence the desire for .432" bullets.
 
max503 said:
How much do you care about that gun???

I realize you don't cast or powder coat, but an easy way to add girth to a boolit is to PC it, and carefully lift the bullet out of the powder instead of shaking off the excess. This method easily adds several thousandths to a bullet.
You have a gun. It needs bullets. You could buy some lead bullets and soak off the lube, then PC them yourself. Or maybe they would sell you some without lube on them.
Powder coating is a very simple operation. Go over to CastBoolits.com. They will get you everything you need.

Or you could sell it and get something else. Or you could turn it into a safe queen.
Your choice.
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Well, it's hard to find a nice clean New Century so while I'm open to find another specimen, I can't afford to get too excited about replacement. I'm trying to avoid safe queens and it's not the end of the world if I do wind up paying close to $.40 per.
 
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