A member of the local range posted a picture of 257 bricks of CCI SRP's....
$124.99 each.


Can we please get a knitting sub-forum here? I got a feeling my reloading/shooting days are coming to an end.


I've got a wife and a mortgage, those come first.

I've been to that monster in Colorado Springs. Somebody gotta pay for the Ferris Wheel. Joe

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True indeed.

I bet they were CCI BR4's, right? What if I told you Scheels is paying twice what those primers cost at retail just two years ago?

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Yep, BR-4
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Then I'll tell you I'm giving up shooting and reloading for good. Enough is enough.

This will pass and when it does stock up! This isn’t the first time it’s happened…

Last July at the Reno/Sparks Scheels I paid $65 for CCI LPP and SPP. I bought 2 of each.

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Edited my post above, they were in fact BR4 primers.

I wish I could be this optimistic!

The Scheels mentioned above in Colorado Springs also charges a PIF. What is a PIF you ask. It is not a fart from a mouse, it is a Public Improvement Fee that they are "Forced" to charge and give to the area developer to make what ever improvements need to be done on a freshly developed area. Not sure what they are.

If you order from the internet website and pickup at the store, you avoid the fee. Check your receipt.

Either shoot less or shoot 22LR. Don’t stop shooting.

Every time something like this happens people are adamant this time it’s different and things will never return to normal.

I was in a semi local gs recently and they had a decent stock of primers at $125/1000. This is a shop I've frequented for years and I've seen them sell things that are in short supply at reasonable prices when everyone else is through the roof.

I wouldn't automatically blame sky high shelf prices on the retailers.

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Ammo and components have gone through the roof, no question. There are gougers to be sure, but the retailers' costs have also gone through the roof.

That said, our hobby is still relatively affordable. Try golfing, sailing etc. We had it cheap forever, things change, oh well. I'm still gonna grin, bear it, reload cast and shoot.

Put another way, I'm not paying doctor bills, legal fees, or alimony. I don't golf, drink, or go to bars and hit on 22 year olds. Life is still good !

I too am an aging Boomer, so I’ve seen several ups and downs in the market, but this one is worse and longer lasting than I recall. I’m glad I’ve got enough stuff stashed to do some shooting and reloading in my “Golden Years” but the long term picture sure doesn’t look promising.

I’m giving a little more thought to outings I would have jumped on without a second’s thought, and am feeding my shooting Jones with more 22s from my deeper stash of those.

Froggie

I cleaned up this thread.

Last time I checked, politics was still a banned topic.

Consider this a gift. Points only going forward…

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At $.125/each primer I don't feel too bad paying $.37/rd for ammo dropped on my doorstep. I resent the $30+ "tax and insurance" that was added in but everybody is charging it now, otherwise "online ordering" was fixing to disappear. Life is good, indeed. Joe

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I purchased some primers recently so I can still reload, even with higher priced primers, much cheaper than I can buy very expensive ammo for a 38 Special/357 Mag revolver - when it can be found. If I shot 9mm I wouldn't bother to reload at today's prices though.

I also recently purchased a S&W 617 22lr revolver so I can continue shooting and maintain my fun and gun handling skills. That 617 really is a nice firearm.

Take care, stay well and happy.

And yet another aging Boomer here and I agree with you 100%.
We have seen this at least X3 and the other anomalies did not last this long. I just waited it out and the supply came back. Prices went down but not completely to where they were a few months previously. What was really helpful was that all the hoarders discovered they had WAY over spent and behold there were household bills that needed paid. I made some great buys that I am still shooting and reloading from especially top line defense ammo.


A lot of people thought the world was ending and bought expensive carry rigs. As we all know a lot of folks get excited about doing this and then find the "armed" life style is too much effort. Needless to say I bought a number of high end holsters new in the bag a few months later...



But this time seems different. It's almost a malevolent undercurrent being feed politically and by a generation that says "OK, fine, I am down on one knee, head bowed, eyes cast down and open palm up...now give me my hand out so I can get the newest I-Phone..."

I am concerned that this "anomaly" may be more of a turning point and not as a return to sanity, reasonability and accountability...

Last week the same Sheels store in Colorado Springs had CCI SRP for $59.00 a brick so it is getting better. At least no shipping or haz mat fees. They limited each customer to one brick. Glad my wife also wanted a brick.

Are you sure? That's below cost.

Actually it was $69.95 per brick amd they wete gone before I could get there.

Why would anyone move to an area "being developed" where they will have to pay additional fees? Also in Colorado, counties have sales tax and towns have additional sales taxes. NUTS

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My local reloading dealer sold me a 100 at a time for $ 4.99 /pk. Last week they were $7.99/pk. This guy never gouged at all.

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I've got a stock of primers and .22lr but I've also gotten into air guns lately. I can always shoot something now.

That may be, but even long time reloaders can’t recall a drought this long. We’re in the third year of it and it isn’t letting up. I started reloading after Newtown. Components were scarce but I got them, and not for any more than they should have been. It was hard to get them but not impossible, and the prices were normal.

Even IF it stabilizes, I bet primers will be $80 a brick.

It may pass to some degree, but we are not going to like what’s on the other side. But the days of primers for under 8, or maybe even 10 cents apiece are gone forever.

There are primer manufacturers all over the world. Seems they should be attempting to flood the US market, but I don’t see that happening anywhere. I am just happy to have a fairly substantial primer inventory of all sizes.

I'm shooting about half as much as I used to. I still have plenty of primers and powder but not interested in using it all this year. That's what I think about the supply and where we may be in 2023. Might get better but I'm not going to make any far fetched predictions. The weather seems to be a bit off this year also.

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I have found that a good book, a bottle of bourbon, and a bit of silence is a nice substitute for the cost of primers and powder. I refuse to be scalped by the suppliers.

I have cut my shooting by about 98%.

Well now, Not a bad solution at all! Well put brother and worth investigating to the fullest extent.

My shooting is about 95%+ .22LR now.

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I agree that PIF's are annoying, but people usually are not "moving to" the retail district being developed.

Is there any new construction in your Rust Belt area?

Retail follows rooftops.

Well, with gas prices the way they are I think folks like us are lucky we have the cash flow to literally burn it. The demand for this stuff is gonna plummet come mid 2023 when folks are trying to make ends meet. The economists I work with are projecting that the real downturn will hit around that time. The loose monetary policy is at an end and the Feds shift will put the brakes on demand for most things except necessities. Remember the Volker years.

When the times get tough and brick and mortar shops where I go to get my supplies are still open, Im happy to still have a place to walk in and support what's left of our firearm retailer base. I don't relish paying more but I give it to them knowing its helping our cause just a bit, in just the right place..because they are still there.. I don't get the feeling that I'm being fleeced, the places I shop don't look like they're getting rich, mostly dress like I do and surely have a similar outlook on financial survival as the next guy at the end of the day. There are places I don't shop much but I'd hate to see them fail just the same, some things are priceless. Other people in other places would just about give all, to have what we have.

I'm not shooting much unless it's .22lr.

I do shoot the 30-06 in my Garand M1 and some .223 from a bolt action rifle.

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With all due respect, no one alive right now has seen this before. The world economy shut down for almost two years. That has never happened on this scale in our lifetimes. There is not an item that we consume that has not been, and continues to be, affected. It's going to take some time for things to settle. The laws of economics are like the laws of physics and will bring everything, including primers, into equilibrium. In the meantime, each of us individually decides the value of what we consume.

I know an individual that works in accounting at a small ammo manufacturer and she told me their primer costs have gone from $14 per brick to $73 per brick in the last two years. I did not ask of they bought direct but that is an inside look at primer costs.

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Part of the reason for the high prices is that the dollar has been drastically devalued over the last year or so.
Something like 40% of all the paper currency in circulation in the U. S. has been printed in the last two years.

Did you try buying any .22lr in 2013, 2014, or 2015? They were going for up to $100 a brick at time. By 2018 you could have bricks of 500 mailed to your door for under $20.

The current situation is exacerbated by the fact that the supply chain problems are worldwide and not just limited to the US.

Bit the bullet and bought some powder. Hate paying the extra fees but, ended up getting 8lbs of Titegroup for about $250. About $33/pound is better than what is on GB.

This too shall pass, as it has in past times. The question that begs for an answer is when, and what will be the new normal price?
With the cost of everything else up, at least double or more, the case of primers that I gave $150.00 for in December of 2019 will probably cost me at least double that to replace, after the madness settles down.

I can hold out for a couple more years, if I am willing manage, and or rearrange my shooting habits.
While I prefer to shoot 38's, I have moved to 44 and 45's because I have more primers for large, than I do for small.

A spot of good news, at least where I live. There is currently plenty of rimfire ammo at Wal-Mart in my community, so I buy a 325 pack when I have an extra few bucks in my pocket.
I like to shoot my K-22, Ruger Single Six, and for now I can get ammo for them.
Federal Auto Match, is however up from 13 bucks, to 22 bucks for 325 rounds, like everything else about double what it used to be.

When I first started reloading, primers we’re selling for $7.50-$8.50 per thousand. Then we got worried when they were hard to find, but six months or so later they were about $14.50/thou. This lasted until the next big scare when the price closed in on $20.00/thou. That was a little longer of a “drought” but things settled in for a while. I’d been buying at under $25 until this latest scare, and bought one last thousand for $42.00 just as it began. After things “settle down” I hope they get somewhere near that last figure for the new norm, but as long as it’s taking and with all the social and market forces at work, I wonder.

The New Normal may very well end up being at least 8 to 10 cents apiece a couple of years from now, when they can be found.

Think about not being able to purchase ammo or components online.

37 cent ammo must be cheap FMJ 9mm........Lots of us shoot bigger stuff....Lots bigger stuff.

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Yes I did. Prices were high. But ammo was on shelves. I haven’t seen a primer in my local shop in over 2 years. And those $100 bricks of .22 were down to normal within a year. This current trend has never happened.