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I primarily shoot trap and skeet now. I have thousands of loaded .38, 9mm, .45, .223 loaded in GI cans. This leaves me with some excess Large Pistol primers. I contacted the LGS and just asked if they ever considered buying primers to resell since they have none on their shelves. The management says no, but the salesman I'm talking to says he could sure use them,

I tell him I'm needing #8 shot, and he just happens to have quite a lot, as he just took up pistol shooting and cut down on his trap shooting. Since Primers are going for about $100 - $110 p/1000 (I have 2000 to spare) and shot is going for $65 a 25 lb bag, we made a even swap for 3 bags of shot.

I have plenty of shot shell primers and wads and still have 4 lbs powder, so I'm back into reloading for my Trap and skeet guns again.

And the nice thing is no money changed hands. For what I have in the various components I figure I can reload for about $4.60 a box. That sure beats $9.50 plus tax per box.
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Bartering has always worked and still will.
If you can find folks who understand the concept!
Lots of the the Younger crowd have a blank look if you bring it up.
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My car dealer wanted my year-old leased car, and asked me to do an even-swap barter for a brand new, 2 model-year newer, higher optioned version of my car.
I know it's a crazy availability market for cars, but that barter went very well for me.

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I just traded 50 rds of 9mm for a used air compressor.
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I traded a box of 150 gr 308s for a 1000 SPPs. Older Fed primers but it was an older yellow box of Winchester ammo. They also wanted to trade some LRPs for a box of 35 Rem. I have a 35 Rem though
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As things shake down a little, it will probably become more popular among shooters and reloaders to swap out excess stocks of items on hand for needed items someone else owns. In the best circumstances this becomes a win-win for both parties. There are always ways to work around our needs, we just have to use our imagination or be more creative sometimes.

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I give a discount for those who would like to barter..
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Bartering has always worked and still will.
If you can folks who understand the concept!
Lots of the Younger crowd have a blank look if you bring it up.
A few years ago I listed to trade a few hundred 41 Mag cases. I specifically said trade. Young people kept trying to buy and weren't interested in trading!

My item to trade is an asset. I don't want cash (a constantly devaluing coinage) I just wanted a different asset!

I would have taken: pocket knives, partial boxes of bullets or ammo, gun accessories, copper or plastic plumbing pipe or fittings, nails, screws, used tools, lumber, military patches or equipment, camping gear, and not least: Broken Guns. If you or your dad have a garage, you have assets to trade! (just ask my wife, I accumulate junk!) My brother will take dogs and livestock on trade!

Getting rid of something you don't use or need for something you can use or trade, that is bartering!

I once traded a nonrunning K-5 Blazer for 20 cords of firewood, He was after the drive shafts and could trade the 4 bolt engine block. He was happy, I was happy, getting the dead vehicle out of the yard made the zoning office happy, and heating the house for 2+ years made the wife happy! That was a great trade.

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I like to barter at a lot of things that I do.
You did well in being able to trade and swap out gear for things that you needed.

Wow!! The last time that I bought lead shot, it was going for $49 a bag for the Magnum pellets. Reclaimed was about $10 a bag cheaper, at the trap club.

Number 8's will work for skeet and trap.
They might drop a few birds in high winds or if you go past the 24 yard line at trap, on bad clays, but generally will fill a pattern out a lot better than 7.5's and maybe pick up a few more birds on the score pad.

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Donít recall trading any Ammo.
But I have traded more than a few guns.
I have traded vacant land as a down payment on a house.
Traded vehicles as down payments on houses.
One time I was able do get new Swamp Coolers with Barter Credits.
Dude calls, will you take a Win pre-64 Mod 70?
Come on down! He arrives, tells me heís decided to keep the 70.
But he wants the coolers.
Will I take cash? I guess so!
Hate it when that happens.
And the one I love to tell.
Traded the Woodstove for the Colt SA.
Blackpowder Frame in a Buscadera Rig.
And it was in a Movie! Lonely Are the Brave.
Later traded the Colt to my Buddy Jerry for a High End Swiss Watch.
Trade the Watch for a Walther PP and money.
Sold the Walther.
So the stove, Colt, Watch, Walther and probably the money are all gone.
But Iím still here!
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Thatís the thing about selling something... the money will probably be gone soon and you probably wonít even remember how it was spent. OTOH, if you trade for something you want or need, or for something you can re-trade for something you want or need, then youíve accomplished something. Itís almost acceptable to sell a lot of little items for money to buy something big you want... almost! I still miss a couple of guns Iíve sold over the years though.
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There are many guns I wish I had not sold. One I made a profit of 21,000 dollars...but it paid off the mortgage on a farm. But many guns were sold to buy another. I still have my first. A used Winchester M-69 for which I paid 10 dollars and got 6 boxes of 22LRHPs. Guess how long they lasted??. I sell lots of littles so I can buy neat guns. The world keeps going round and round!
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I cut my first gun deal sitting astride a tricycle. That ain’t a joke. Pestered my old man for a fancy toy gun. Got said gun and went down the street to show it to buddy. His old man was the Presbyterian preacher. Tighter than tree bark. Buddy started whining for new toy pistol like mine. The Preach gets out a S&W 38 break top and plugs cylinders with pine. Click click, mine shot caps. Buddy liked mine, I liked his. We swapped. Got home and my old man took me down the street with gun. Preach was cool with deal, buddy was cool with his new toy and my old man was happy with his new night stand gun. Left me with a grin on my face and a thumb in my butt. It wouldn’t be the last time. That’s how it was in July of 55.
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A few years ago, my then next store neighbor was just getting into the game. He had a Lee progressive press, which worked fine for his 9mm but not well for his 7mm rem. Mag. I helped him with his set up and loned him some accessories but it was plane that the Lee was not the answer for the big 7. I went to my reloading cave and came back with a nice clean RCBS Jr. Press that I had bought cheap. He said "how much" and I said set it up and see if you like it. If you do we will work a deal. A few days later he was working in the garage and I asked if he had tried the press? He said it worked great and he had some trading stock if I was interested. The trade involved my press for 2000 spp and 2000 srp, all older CCI packaging. I'm sure he didn't have much in the primers as he said he got them in trade from a guy he worked with. Bartering at its finest as I only had 25 bucks in the press and primers were selling for about $30. Per thousand at the time.
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When .22RF ammo was selling for $75.00/brick I bartered for a large supply. Same way when small and large pistol primers became unobtanium I took 1K of each as partial payment for a rifle. Always been able to find what I need this way, never paid gouger prices.
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I primarily shoot trap and skeet now. I have thousands of loaded .38, 9mm, .45, .223 loaded in GI cans. This leaves me with some excess Large Pistol primers. I contacted the LGS and just asked if they ever considered buying primers to resell since they have none on their shelves. The management says no, but the salesman I'm talking to says he could sure use them,

I tell him I'm needing #8 shot, and he just happens to have quite a lot, as he just took up pistol shooting and cut down on his trap shooting. Since Primers are going for about $100 - $110 p/1000 (I have 2000 to spare) and shot is going for $65 a 25 lb bag, we made a even swap for 3 bags of shot.

I have plenty of shot shell primers and wads and still have 4 lbs powder, so I'm back into reloading for my Trap and skeet guns again.

And the nice thing is no money changed hands. For what I have in the various components I figure I can reload for about $4.60 a box. That sure beats $9.50 plus tax per box.
Back when this country was new most sales were not really sales, they were trades. You raise cows, the blacksmith shoes horses, trade beef for the blacksmith work and everyone was the better. Over the years I have done similar deals so it's good to hear they are still happening. Well done on both sides! You save 50% on your shotgun ammo and the salesman got to make a good dealer customer happy by "finding" some LPP for an order he couldn't fill. Win - Win...
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And the nice thing is no money changed hands. For what I have in the various components I figure I can reload for about $4.60 a box. That sure beats $9.50 plus tax per box.
You need to re-think your costs per box. Yeah, 4.60 per box was a good number back in 2018 but at today's prices my cost per box for 1 ounce 12 gauge is $8.38 and I'm cheaping out with Cheddite primers. Add another 4 cents per round for Winchester primers and the cost goes up by another dollar per box. Currently the two costliest items for loading a shotshell are the primers and the shot with powder coming in third.

BTW I'm a 4 gun Skeet shooter and now do most of my practicing with 410 because it's only $6.20 per box to reload. Note, 410 is not great for Trap but 28 gauge will work and it's only $7.23 per box to reload. I'll also note that I load about 10,000 shotshells per year which is why I track the costs closely.
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The guys at the 2700 Bullseye match traded small pistol primers, Lg & Sm rifle primers for my extra 10K of large pistol primers. Everybody walked away happy.

I still got last place, shoulder surgery did not improve my ability to hold steady especially at 50 yards.
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He gave me two buckets of wheel-weights in exchange !

He built his house and I cast bullets ... Everybody was Happy-Happy !
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Will barter a 3lb coffee can full of once fired primers, I know that they are good as they fired properly the first time......

no one in Montana seems interested.......

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