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I have just finished loading my last 1000 CCI SPPs that I got at K-Mart. A sad day indeed. I bought them in a store in Dover Delaware. I got 7000...as they were closing the reloading stuff out. They were marked 74 cents per 100 pack. I do have a couple thousand older primers. Alcan LPPs. They have a sticker of 5 dollars per 1000. I found 'em down in the vault in a box 2-8 pound kegs of Red Dot were originally shipped in. The olden days have finally kinda run out! Primer wise anyway
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You sir have smoked my best deal. I never saw them that cheap.
I paid $75 for 5k SPP back a few years ago from a man getting out of the hobby. I haven’t cracked into them yet , but if I keep casting , loading , and shooting I guess it is inevitable.
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When I bought those SPPs I also got 1100 LPPs for 76 cent per. I have one pack of them left. Then I'm going to be in the 18 dollar primers next
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And more sad than that..... ten minutes ago I just got through signing for the UPS guy for a 5k case of small pistol primers I ordered for $420. I wasn't out but I didn't want to run out. It seemed like primer prices were creeping back up a bit.
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Hmm I still have 4-5k I bought around ‘09 or so. Haven’t a clue what I paid
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If you want to go way back I bought the Green Dot for $30.00 for the big 15# barrel and when I started driving in 1957 we were part of a farmers' coop and paid $.12 per gallon of gas.
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If you want to go way back I bought the Green Dot for $30.00 for the big 15# barrel and when I started driving in 1957 we were part of a farmers' coop and paid $.12 per gallon of gas.
In 1957 I was just a widdle kid and we had just moved into our very first house. Dad made about $100 a week and we just bought a brand new Dodge for about $1900. The house was 5 years old and it cost $16,000.

In other words, everything is relative.

In 1971 I started my first Engineering job at $900 / month. The new Chevy I bought cost $3100. Grandma chastised me for paying that much for a car and said I must be rich since Grandpa used to make only $35 a week when he was my age.

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I still have another years worth of spps that cost $15-$18. I have lots more that cost me $30 and I quit buying when they went higher. Sadly I WILL use them up.

A more immediate problem will be LPPs. I'm at 10K. I load 4 calibers with spps and only 2 with lpps but I will run out of lpps sooner.
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A dollar used to be worth a lot more than it is nowadays. When I got my Maryland DL in 1970 gas was .33/gallon. Now its 10 times that at $3.60/gallon here in NC. Using that formula in 2074 gas will be a whopping $36.00/gallon. Hope our grandkids get good jobs.
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Since we’re on the good old days, when I was a kid in the 50’s I remember my day buying regular gas for 14.9 cents / gallon. “Service stations” filled you car with gas, washed the windshield, checked the oil and tires at no extra charge. Air was even free if your tires were low. Gas stations gave towels, drinking glasses and plated away with a fill up. Gas stations had gas wars when one station would drop the price below or at cost just to get customers in the door and hoping to drive the competition out of business. Service stations weren’t convenient stores, they serviced cars doing repairs and oil changes and grease jobs.

When I got my license in 1965 regular gas was normally 24.9 cents and in the early 70’s I bough gas often for 17.9. It cost $4 to fill my 1965 Plymouth I bought in 1970 for $250.

I believe it was in the 30’s that my grandfather bought his Sears & Robuck house for $800. My parents had a custom house built in 1958 and they paid $13,500. I bought a new International Scout in 1973 with the 345 engine for a whopping $8500. Tuition per quarter at the University of Tennessee when I started in 1967 was $136/Quarter plus books. When I graduated in 71 it was $168/quarter.

I just finished a brick of spp I bought about 5 or 6 years ago for $24 and I’m into the $30/1000 now. I remember a couple years ago having a nose bleed paying $45/1000 for Federal Gold Medal LPP.

Times are changing folks!
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We can stop longing for the good old days. The current primer prices have very little to do with inflation or demand. It’s price gouging. The 4 companies who make them know they can sell them for $80 a brick so they’re going to. They’ll continue to hold product back to make that happen. They’ve prioritized their bigger profits over decades long customers who can’t t afford them anymore, and discouraged the next generation of reloaders from beginning. I know the days of $35 a brick primers are over. I’d be willing to pay nearly double that. Beyond that, they can choke on them.
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I wasn't crowing about the price... I was complaining that they are gone. I still have a few thousand 18 dollar primers. And more 28 dollar ones. But that is the end. I bought ammo before the pandemic more so than primers. Got quite a few at 32 or so but with a reloading business I sold most of them. I also sold most of the 22 ammo I bought before the SHTF. I kept 4 cases of 32 boxes of Federal 22 LRHP and about 15 boxes of 500-550 packs. But I have Grandkids who love to shoot when they come out. And they are due next month. That is why I used the primers. Blow away ammo for fun
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The oldest primers I have are from the mid 90's CCI's SR mag. The boxes are priced with a Majic Marker so I couldn't resell them in 2008 when I got unemployed. I sold $850 worth at wholesale to a dealer. I over doubled my money, but when cash reappeared, I restocked with Winchester pistol and Federal GM Match rifle and a few bricks of Remington 7 1/2. The last purchase of primers was Federal 205M (5 1000) 210M (10 1000) & 215M (5 1000) for $32/1000. Just before the pandemic, I did an inventory and had 68 1000 metallic primers and 12 1000 Win 209 shotshell primers.

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I remember the old prices to but those days are gone forever. High prices are here to stay I figure. Sad times
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There is a dealer here that buys estates. I know him pretty well and buy some stuff from him. Sometimes when he buys estates he gets reloading equipment in the deal. When he makes the offer it is for the guns and anything gun related he gets "takes the ride" (read zero money in it). A couple of years back we bought all the reloading equipment and supplies he had. We gave him $10/1K of primers (bought close to 80K), $2/pound powder (bought 50 pounds) and $20/500 bullets ( about 100 pounds worth), plus a couple of presses, dies, powder measures, bullet sizers, etc..... It will not happen again as he has found the internet and found that it now pays big for him to sell there. The good old days are gone!
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Last week I was talking to a guy that won't pay $20. for a box of 9m/m because that is twice what he paid for the last box. I reminded him him that he was old enough to remember when he could buy a new vehicle for $2500. but now he would pay $40,000. and never blink an eye. He never answered but I told him you have too pay the going price or do without. Larry
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Can't touch your price Skeet, but these from 2006 or there-a-bouts are what I'm currently using... Have a few more bricks to go through yet.


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In the past year I have been given over 7,000 primers from an estate and a building tear down.
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I was at the Cabela’s in East Grand Forks and saw they hav a variety of primers. $9.99/100. I said no thanks!
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Can't touch your price Skeet, but these from 2006 or there-a-bouts are what I'm currently using... Have a few more brick to go through yet.

I looked at my price sheets for that time frame. My wholesale on primers 12.49 in quantity over 50,000. I usually bought a lot more than that. Always at least 50,000 shotshell primers...then all the rest. I also remember that time frame where Fiocchi was selling packages of metallic primers in 1500 boxes for the same price as American made. I bought a bunch but sold them. I used their SRPs and found them to be good primers
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The price of primers (and most everything else) has not gone up. The value of a dollar has dropped. Amazing how many do not understand that.
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I'm behind many of you guys here. The least expensive primers I ever bought were Winchester SPP for $15/K. Then for a long time I was paying $19/K. The most expensive primers I ever bought were CCI primers for $125/5K I bought 30,000 that day split between SPP, LPP, SRP and LRP.
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Everything else has not gone up by three hundred percent or more.
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Doesn’t seem that long ago that I was buying CCI primers at a local gun shop for $9/K. During the primer scare of 92 or 93 the owner, Gordy had saw the writing on the wall and ordered all he could before they were in short supply. He didn’t put them on the shelf, you had to ask if there were any available. His regular customers never ran out, but there were no strangers buying them. The most I had to pay during that period was $12/K out the door. The rumors of government mandated 5 year shelf life and such had help create the shortage.

When primers became more widely available they were at prices in the $14 range. I bought piles of Winchester Large rifle and pistol primers. They were still marketed as for use in standard and magnum cartridges. Yep, I still have some of them from that period.

I also remember the first time I paid $40/K for Federal small pistol primers. I believe that was around 2008. It broke my heart! $40 for primers! I bought 3K. For some time it galled me every time I looked at them.

This time when the dust settled they were in the $25 range.

I have traded some of my large rifle for large pistol. Hunting season usually finds folks wanting to buy LR, but I don’t like selling what I can’t replace. I can always use large pistol primers, so I instead try to work out a trade.

I have bought a few thousand large pistol primers at $80/K and yea it galls me to think about it.

I still have a few 100 count CCI white & green packaged, red Federal, etc that were likely bought in the $5 to $6 per K era.

With economics being what they are I doubt we’ll see lower prices on much of anything for some time to come. I was working on my granddaughter’s car recently and I picked up a couple of gallons of antifreeze. She asked why I bought more when we already had some at home? My reply, “it ain’t likely to get cheaper anytime soon.”

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With every government alphabet agency stocking 10s of millions rounds of ammo, that's probably where a lot of it is going.
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PD....I have to admit you are right. They have a lot of ammo and their government connection gives them dibs. And they continue to purchase even more...To keep it from us??. I'm not really a conspiracy theorist but it seems like one at times. I was in the local Farm Store the other day and they had more ammo than I have seen in at least 2 years. No primers or powder though. Prices are still high on much of it.
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My emergency stash is 10K Federal primers purchased for $27 per K. Thinking the rest come in around an average of $35 per K.

I miss the old days of going to a match and bullet casting guy had a table with Winchester Primers for 35 per 5K and a thousand .45 200 swc were less than 50.
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I lucked out today. Bought an OLD press from a fellow. Herter's Model 9. A 2 hole H press which looks like a press made by Dunbar Glass works in WVA. He had a box of BR-2 primers sitting on the bench I asked if they were for sale. He added 25 bucks to the deal. There were 900 primers in the box. I use very few LRPs though. As far as cleaning the grudge I took a whole bunch of stuff to an auction. 8 presses are gone. 4 guns too. But they have SO MUCH great stuff in the auction
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seems to me like $90 to $120 will be the new normal for 1,000.

that be tough. First pandemic, now Ukraine. I dont see them ver going back down close to where they were after that.
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I really think the new retail will be 60-80 dollars when(if) they get back to normal sales
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I don't think the prices of anything will ever come down... not as long as Joe Biden (or any other Democrat) is President and Justin Trudeau (or any other Liberal) is Prime Minister.
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