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I "borrowed" this from another forum. It may be old news to many members but thought it was pretty neat way to fix bulged 40SW brass.

I was not aware of the Glock bulge until joining here so I have a ton of 40 SW brass to sort through.

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I "borrowed" this from another forum. It may be old news to many members but thought it was pretty neat way to fix bulged 40SW brass.

I was not aware of the Glock bulge until joining here so I have a ton of 40 SW brass to sort through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-PszuLwEu8
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Yeah, I saw that new Redding Die, but I bet that they got the idea from the fellow's Youtube vid showing how to fix that Glock shot ammo!
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Even better. Thanks!

I have a resizer die so if I can get just .401 kit it's a lot cheaper. Do not know if it actually works as well as the Redding die???
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What I want to know is where can you get a shell holder push rod without paying 48 bucks?
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I have a Lee undercut die that I use on any 40 brass I come across that was fired in a Glock. Although it does get rid of the bulge the Lee rep told me that once the bulge happens that part of the brass is permanetly weakend. Thus to always shoot it in a fully supported barrel. I only shoot these cases in my M&P and doe not have any prolems with them.
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Using that Lee taper crimp die was an ingenious solution!

I had problems with my Glock 19 bulging the unsupported part of my 9mm cases. I normally reload 9mm on my Dillon 550 using carbide dies, but that didn't remove the bulge. What I did to fix it was to size my cases first on a single stage press using a standard RCBS sizing die (NOT carbide) with Imperial Sizing Die Wax for lubricant. I set the die so the press would cam over center when the handle was levered down, which sized the case as far down on the body as possible. It worked perfectly for me, but I don't know if it will work in all situations where the cases are bulged, but it might be another way of dealing with the 40 S&W cases too.

After I sized the cases this way, I removed the sizing die from my 550 and ran them through normally to load them.
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What I want to know is where can you get a shell holder push rod without paying 48 bucks?
Here is the whole kit for $15. Perhaps a call to Lee and you can just get the rod?
Only good if you have a Lee Full size resize die.
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I guess I need to be the one to mention this but, two things this title suggests.

#1, Glock is the only one that causes this phenomenon.

#2, There is no way to avoid having this problem in a Glock.

I suppose that these things are nullified if you are just considering scarfing range brass that it has been known to have been fired through Glocks. They just get bad raps from time to time and really, and I can't believe I am saying this on the S&W forum, they are wonderful firearms.

The Browning High Power, along with many other semi autos that have a feed ramp that extends into the chamber, is capable of providing the same type of affect.

As a handloader, or a reloader, you can cut down on the effects of bulged cases via powder selection.

Look at the data for the 40S&W on the Hodgdon data website.
Take note of what the velocities are and the related pressures. There will be much less case flaring when the pressure is reduced. If you will notice the velocity can be where it needs to be and still have low pressure, again, depending on powder selection.

Take a look at this information:
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Longshot .400" 1.125" 6.5 1009 25,000 PSI 8.0 1159 32,300 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .400" 1.125" 6.1 957 25,200 PSI 6.6 1018 28,800 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .400" 1.125" 6.1 876 25,900 PSI 6.9 976 32,500 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 5.8 975 27,700 PSI 6.3 1053 33,200 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .400" 1.125" 5.0 973 26,500 PSI 5.8 1046 33,400 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 5.4 946 28,000 PSI 5.8 1013 32,900 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 4.1 797 23,800 PSI 5.0 947 32,900 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .400" 1.125" 4.1 797 23,800 PSI 5.0 947 32,900 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .400" 1.125" 5.2 935 27,900 PSI 5.7 999 31,700 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP IMR PB .400" 1.125" 4.1 851 26,200 PSI 4.5 917 30,400 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 3.9 830 28,300 PSI 4.3 888 32,400 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .400" 1.125" 4.2 877 26,500 PSI 4.7 978 33,300 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .400" 1.125" 4.3 904 27,700 PSI 4.8 966 32,500 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Clays .400" 1.125" 3.0 727 26,000 PSI 3.5 847 34,300 PSI
I have been testing a load with SR4756. Having great results and I am shooting the through a Glock 22. No bulged cases and velocity with a 180gr PHP (Plated Hollow Point) in the 950fps range.

Here is a report on the testing:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/e...570103904/m/26610551
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Just spoke with Lee, the price for a "shell holder push rod" is $2.50 and $5.00 shipping, The 401 kit is $20.00, part #90060
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I have been using the Lee Factory Crimp Die on Station 5 of my Dillon 650 for about 18 months now with absolutely great results.

The part I get from http://www.kempfgunshop.com/ in Michigan City Indiana, cost about $21 including shipping.

On some of the tool heads, I have to put the set lock nut on the bottom of the plate as the die screws in just a little far to catch the threads to lock it from the top. The nut does not interfere with the shell plate.

I've got a bunch of rimless range brass in various calibers that were running about 40% discard due to the 'glock bulge'. Setting the Dillon sizing die down as far as possible STILL did not solve the problem... Since the Lee FCD, discard rate has fallen to ZERO!!! Some of them have been back now for the 3rd reload since my original change to LFCD on used range brass, of unknown prior history....no problem so far.
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