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I am loading 4.5grs. of 231 under a 125gr. Berry plated bullet. Problem is unburned powder. I read the post below and I wonder am I useing to much powder. At 25yrds.I can keep them in a 5 inch circle. Thats pretty good for an old f__t. Don
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You're fine. You're not at max. Actually, REDUCED charges tend to produce more barrel residue.
I shoot a lot of 231, and never worry about the loose residue in the barrel. It cleans right out.
I am left cold by the popular obsession as to which powder leaves the least visible residue, because a loose residue may clean right out, while a barely visible residue may stick like cement.
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Wioth lead and plated bullets in the staright walled pistol cases my favorite powders are WST, American Select and Trail Boss. All three burn clean in my guns.
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I am loading 4.5grs. of 231 under a 125gr. Berry plated bullet. Problem is unburned powder. I read the post below and I wonder am I useing to much powder. At 25yrds.I can keep them in a 5 inch circle. Thats pretty good for an old f__t. Don
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06-03-2009, 05:19 AM
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I use magnum primers for reduced pistol loads to get cleaner/more complete ignition. See if that helps.
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In my expereince W-231 burns more cleanly at the higher pressures of 9mm, 38 Super and 40 S&W. I have never had it burn clean for me in the lower pressure cartridges such as 38 Special or 45 ACP. I use W-231 for reloading medium velocity 38 Supers for my S&W 686 and it burns very clean with presuures in the 25000 psi range.
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I have found that most all powders burn cleaner at the upper end of loads, most powders will not burn clean at reduced loadings.
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You're fine. You're not at max. Actually, REDUCED charges tend to produce more barrel residue.
I shoot a lot of 231, and never worry about the loose residue in the barrel. It cleans right out.
I am left cold by the popular obsession as to which powder leaves the least visible residue, because a loose residue may clean right out, while a barely visible residue may stick like cement.
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This is a good assessment. I might point out one problem with loose residue though. If it gets under the ejector star during a reload, it can cause your revolver to lock up tighter than a drum!
AA#5 is one of those powders that can do just that. Been there got the t shirt!
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You didn't mention what primers you were using? I had that issue with plated bullets and w231 and I was using 4.0 to 4.4 gr of powder but I was using CCI primers. I was also getting squibs and they were a rreal pain in the ***. I quit using the CCI primers and the problems went away. I also have used Winchester small pistol magnum primers and saw no difference in the way the powder burned. Accuracy was the same also.
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This is a good assessment. I might point out one problem with loose residue though. If it gets under the ejector star during a reload, it can cause your revolver to lock up tighter than a drum!
AA#5 is one of those powders that can do just that. Been there got the t shirt!
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Tried AA 5 today and got unburned powder flakes under the revolver ejector.
HS-6 did the same thing.
Will try HP-38 next trip.
Trying a bunch of powders that I got from an estate buy last year.
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My standard .38 practice load is a 158gr LSWC with 4.0 gr of W231 and usually Winchester primers, but I'll use what I can get if they aren't available. I've never had an issue.
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Turn those numbers around on the w231 and try it ... again.
I think you are way too low on the powder that you are using.
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