Can someone tell me what model this revolver is?

Kammerfis · #1 10-11-2009, 04:56 PM

Can someone tell me what model this 5 round, top-break revolver is?

Thank You for your time.

Regards.

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deadin · #2 10-11-2009, 05:07 PM

Well, it's not a Smith & Wesson. Probably either Belgian or Spanish.
Are there any markings on it anywhere?

Kammerfis · #3 10-11-2009, 05:14 PM

Are you shure?

i dont have the gun at hand, but i have been told that it is marked with a S&W mark.

Edit:

This is all the photos i have of it:

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Alk8944 · #4 10-11-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kammerfis

Are you shure?

i dont have the gun at hand, but i have been told that it is marked with a S&W mark.

If deadin isn't sure, I am. It is most likely a Belgian revolver. Probably the only S&W on it is referring to the caliber. S&W never built a revolver with a screwed-on triggerguard. No way, no how is it a S&W gun.

Kammerfis · #5 10-11-2009, 05:35 PM

Got one more pic that shows some markings:

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I thought it looked similar to the S&W 32 and the 38 revolvers, maby it is a copy with some modifications.

Thanks for the answers!

Rigmover · #6 10-11-2009, 05:39 PM

Not A Smith yours doen't have no serial numbers on the butt Smiths do.

Dan Cash · #7 10-11-2009, 05:41 PM

star over Y. Spanish? Ybarra (sp)? It sure looks Belgian though.

JSR III · #8 10-11-2009, 05:53 PM

Looks like a Spanish revolver that someone put what I believe are S&W stocks on. Can't be sure from the photos, but it looks like a S&W logo at the top of the stock.

Kammerfis · #9 10-11-2009, 06:34 PM

Is it a possibility that it is prodused in belgia/Spain under a license from S&W?

deadin · #10 10-11-2009, 07:20 PM

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Is it a possibility that it is prodused in belgia/Spain under a license from S&W?

Not much.

The European "copies" only superficially appeared like S&Ws. The mechanism was usually different, although some of the Spanish copies were pretty close. This one isn't. As for the grips being replaced with S&W grips.. many of the Belgian and Spanish gun makers had their own logo that at a glance could be mistaken for S&W, but was unique to the maker. A clear close-up of the logo and also one of the markings you posted would probably identify it. The Star over Y is probably a Belgian inspector mark. I can't make out the other ones. (If you can't get a picture, try describing them.)

opoefc · #11 10-11-2009, 10:44 PM

Yes, the star over a letter is a Belgian inspectors mark. The letters can vary from A to Z, as each inspector was assigned a separate letter for their stamp. Ed. #15

cgt4570 · #12 10-12-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kammerfis

Is it a possibility that it is prodused in belgia/Spain under a license from S&W?

None of these were made under license. They were made under patent enfringement. S&W won many court cases both domestically and abroad.

If memory serves me, the only S&W revolvers ever made under license were the .44 Russians made for the Russian Army by Ludwig Lowe of Berlin and Tula Arsenal of Russia.

The only other similar situation is a few guns that were manufactured but not yet shipped after S&W won a case in the states in the 1870s.. They were stamped 'Made for Smith & Wesson' and S&W was paid a royalty on each one sold.

Qball · #13 10-12-2009, 07:11 PM

If you are about to buy? i'd stay away.
The barrel look's like it has a weld or grind to it?