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03-31-2011, 12:09 PM
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help - 44 Russian - Cody Show?
hey i have a S&W model 1 russian 44 that has some exciting markings,but I need help to acess what i have. Nickle, 7inch barrel,extra finger rest below triggerguard, ser.# 34339. the awesome size of the gun is amazing. Walrus ivory grips, with the inscription "W. F. CODY WILD WEST SHOW" on the grip frame below the hammer.On the bottom of the grip frame is a proofmark from NY,NY.... HS inside a diamond,<HS> I assumed this is a proofmark? Pat.dates-JAN 18- FEB 17 JULY 11-65 AND AUG 24-69 MANF.DATE-1871.......overall length is 121/2 inches... what do I have here?
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03-31-2011, 12:42 PM
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pictures? Post this in the antiques forum and you will get a better answer.
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03-31-2011, 12:55 PM
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Hi,
Welcome to the Forum!! Great First Post,but we'll need some pretty good photos for an accurate assessment of what you have. Is it Single Action or Double Action? Round or Square Butt?? Sounds by your description it could one of the Single Action Russian's,but the dates you gave on the Barrel Rib don't jive!! Are you sure you worded it "Exactly" how it is stamped on the Barrel Rib?? We need to know "Exactly" how the Address reads beginning with the Company Name!! Post some photos,if possible,and we'll go from there. Your Revolver definitely needs a Factory Research Letter to verify any connection to Cody,but it may just show up as being shipped to an Early Distributor and it will be hard to make the Cody Connection without any additional history. Do you know it's background at all?? That would surely help!! Let us know & Nice Find!!
Yes,it probably would be a good idea to move it to the Antiques Forum,but maybe one of the Moderators will come along & be nice enough to do that for you!!
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03-31-2011, 02:13 PM
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Welcome to the Forum, The S&W serial number, 34339, falls with in the range of the 2nd model (Old Model Russian) as opposed to the 1st model you state. Full pictures, of the gun and ALL markings, are needed to correctly identify your gun. You are reading the HS mark upside down, it's SH for the distributor, Schuyler & Hartley, and it's not a proof mark, but does indicate the gun ws sold commercially rather than being a Russian contract shipped gun. Also, as said above, the barrel stampings you list do not match stampings on genuine S&W revolvers. No S&W carries a "Manf Date 1871" stamping. There are known foreign copies of this type revolver that carry various spurious stampings of similar nature. The stamping of the "W.F.Cody Wild West Show" would not be a factory mark, but was added later. 9 out of 10 times when you see a similar mark on a gun, it has been added by some prior owner to enhance the gun's appeal, so w/o proven provnance of being the property of Cody's show, it usually detracts from the gun's authenticity. Ed.
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