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Old 10-18-2011, 11:14 AM
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Hi Guys, Its been a while. This week I got a New Model 3 top break. Its in fair-good condition. sn is 239xx. The barrel is 5" and likely shortened (rib goes flush to end, and has an elongated sight made of brass but with a almost but not quite matching number stamped on it) The sight is well and correctly installed. The cal. is .44- something. It isnt 44-40 (cylinder too short) probably .44 Russian? Two questions: Date of birth, and top of rib address.
In David Chicoine's excellent book, S&W Six Guns of the Old West, Page 89, there is a list of Model No.3 Barrel patent markings. Mine matches none of them. The left third of the two lines is hard to read particularly on the lower line. Mine reads:
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SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD MASS. USA PAT'D JAN 17&24 65 JULY 11 65
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.......(unreadable)...Dec 18. 1877. REISSUE July 25 1871

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Ive never had any luck downloading pictures to this site. My wife believes its caused by focal stupidity. Thanks Johnny
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:51 PM
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Your Revolver should be a Standard New Model #3 Single Action judging by the Barrel Address you've posted!! The Missing Patent Dates you've stated as "Unreadable" are "Aug.24,1869~Apr.20,1875 & Feb.20,1877"!! As far as the Caliber,check & see if there's a shelf about two-thirds of the way down into the Cylinder Chamber!! If there is one it's most likely a 44 Russian Caliber!!

If you figure out what you're doing wrong with downloading the photos we'll be able to help a bit more when you can post a couple!! If you're downloading "jpeg" photos they can only be inserted if the file size is less than 250kb & 800x800 in size overall!! You might want to check to see if your camera is set on the lowest setting!! Most cameras have this described as "VGA or Email" Size!! Good Luck!!
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I have one s/n 266xx lettered shipped 1896.
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Thanks for the responses guys. Yes, it does have a shelf about 3/4 of the way down the cylinder.
RHMC24, Thanks for the reference date, Mine is about 3000 earlier than your 1896 dated gun.
Im very appreciative of the photo directions. Johnny
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My 6 1/2" nickel New Model #3 in .44 Russian has serial number 22,99X and letters as being shipped to Takata & Co. in Yokohama, Japan on December 29th, 1891. Hope this helps.
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Somebody Had to post a picture...
.32-44 Target, shipped in 1901.
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Here's my New 3 shipped 1896 as mentioned above:
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mic24,
Looks great, nice combo of target sights, walnut grips and lanyard ring.
What caliber?
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.44 Russian. S&W letter has it shipped to Gastinne-Renette, Paris, France, That name is engraved on the barrel, a famous maker of duelling pistols. I bought it in France in 1950 in a used furniture store for $18.

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I am spankin new and mebbe messing up w this post but: Wife gave me a standard New Model 3, 44 Rus, vigorously cleaned. Ser #15XXX and I begin to gather from other posts it is probably early 1880 production. This square with what you folks know?
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