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Old 09-05-2014, 05:28 PM
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I am new to this forum and need some help identifying this revolver. It is a top break with a 3 1/4" barrel that has been in the family for many years. Photos attached. The number on the butt is 67914.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:11 PM
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It's a S&W .38 Double Action (DA), Second Model, from the early 1880s. In its current condition, and also because there were over 500,000 of the .38 DAs made in five models, its monetary value is not great, but as a family memento, it should be priceless. It uses .38 S&W ammunition (NOT .38 S&W Special), and the revolver can still be used if it is in workable condition. But .38 S&W ammunition, while still made, is somewhat difficult to find and expensive.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:22 PM
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It looks like a 38 Safety Hammerless third model. Calibre should be 38 S&W which is not the same as 38 Special. Those grips are pretty cool although one of them is chipped. I think about 90% of the old Smith & Wessons with bakelite grips have one or both grips chipped from either someone trying to get the grips off or trying to put hem back on. It was probably made between 1890 and 1898. Serial number range for the third model was 42484-116002. You can extrapolate about what year it was shipped but sometimes Smith & Wesson revolvers with serial numbers very close together shipped years apart. The only way to know for sure is to get a letter from the factory historian which only costs $50. The letter will also let you know who it was shipped to which can affect the value if it is someone famous.
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It looks like a 38 Safety Hammerless third model.
Hey texmex, I'm pretty sure I see a hammer in the pictures.

DWalt has it right, .38 DA 2nd Model. One note, those mottled red grips are fairly scarce and deserve looking into seeing if Don Furr can repair the chip.
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While an original and complete pair of red mottled grips is desirable, I don't believe it's worth the cost of repairing the chipped grip. After the repair, you will have a repaired pair of red mottled grips which will be worth substantially less than an original pair of undamaged grips. It doesn't seem economically advantageous to do a repair. Seems to me that the best course of action is to leave the gun as-is. If the chipped grip is offensive, buy a pair of used but undamaged original black rubber grips (not too difficult to find) or a pair of replica grips (easily obtained). Then list the red pair for sale here or on eBay. Someone will buy them, probably for more than replacement grips will cost. Or keep the red pair with the gun.

Keep in mind that this revolver in its present condition is definitely not in the collectible category. Were it in pristine condition, it would be worthwhile to pay the cost of a professional grip restoration just to keep everything original and complete. And the ideal buyer of the broken pair would be someone with a pristine condition .38 DA needing such grips who is willing to bear the repair expense. Or someone who could use the unbroken grip panel by itself.

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Don Furr fixed a pair of grips for me some Years ago but I have lost his contact info. Can anyone help?
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Thanks for all your help!
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Mike, Don Furr's info is : Antique Grips, P.O.Box 2648, Costa Mesa, CA., 92628-2648. Tel. ( eves only ) 714-754-6742 email donfurr2@att.net Tell Don that Ed Cornett referred you to get special consideration for S&W collectors. Ed.
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Boy I must need glasses to have missed that.
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