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Old 08-28-2016, 12:44 PM
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Not sure what I have here or what it is worth. I have had it keeping my other revolvers company on the shelf and a buddy spotted it and is asking questions
If you can please help with value...
I think the old holster is cool but no value. The stocks seem interesting?
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Old 08-28-2016, 01:17 PM
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I am hardly an expert but if I was you I would not toss that holster away. IF it is correct to the revolver it could have significant value. I am sure a real expert will jump in here sometime today to tell you exactly what you have there.
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It's obvious it's a " top break " , maybe a Smith in possibly 44 russian or 44 american . Without a closer look it's just my guess on the make , caliber etc . The beauty of the top break was that a guy could be riding his horse , firing . When he needed to reload he would break it open using the top latch thumb grip , open it and let the star extractor raise up, ejecting all 6 spent cartridges . Put in 6 new ones , snap it shut and he's back in the fight , never stopping his horse . Try doing that with a Single Action Army Colt . The holster is very valuable , the two together would bring a handsome fee on the right auction for antique firearms . Please , keep them together !

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Hey Trigger, what is on the rib top? Any S&W id on any part?
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:24 PM
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I would not toss that holster away.
Ditto on the holster.

The gun is not a 44 DA (wrong cylinder configuration.)
The flutes look like a 32 DA of either 3rd or 4th Model.
What is the barrel length? It looks longer than 6", but even a 6" looks long on these little revolvers. If it is an 8" (or10") it's a 3rd Model and quite rare. Even 6" (either 3rd or 4th Models) barrels are scarce and are worth a premium.

How about a serial number??

I just did an on screen compare of cylinder length vs. barrel length and it appears to be a 6"
(I said they could be deceptive....) Still a nice piece including the ivory grips, and holster.
I think I would spring for a letter were it mine.
It will probably come back as M.W. Robinson, but if you don't ask, you'll never know...)
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I'm agreeing with deadin, looks to be a 32 Double Action, (? 2nd model) and possibly real Ivory stocks. The condition does not appear great, but it may clean up well. The stocks (if real Ivory) could be worth a couple times more than the gun. Don't discount that holster. The leather is very dried out, but properly treated could be brought back, and holsters of that vintage are somewhat scarce. Wait until you may hear from a holster expert, but I would use an application of Blackrock leather dressing, possibly a couple applications. One of the "experts" may have a better recommendation.
The gun itself would probably fall in the $200 or so range, but the Ivory stocks could be worth double that.
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It is 32 cal

It is a 6" barrel

The holster really surprises me
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And the SN is 127***
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127,*** puts it as a 4th Model made 1883-1909 id a serial range of 43,406 to 282,999. (The breaking point for determining antique status is 209,302, so this gun is an antique made before 1899.)

I have its possible son (or grandson?) 32 Hand Ejector third Model in .32 S&W Long made in 1929. (See what I mean about the long barrel being deceptive? Still just 6 inches.)



Here's a true 8" on a .38 Single Action 2nd Model.. It looks more like a rifle missing the stock....

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It is, as noted above, a 32 DA, 4th just like the one below. Serial number puts ship date around 1889, so it is an antique. The value of 32 DAs is typically low, but the 6" barrel is somewhat scarce and can add value to the gun. In the condition I see, I would guess maybe $350.

As for the holster, I would very carefully apply leather dressing to it to help preserve it. Holsters from the 1880s are quite popular and that one may have been with the gun since new. Nice set and it is well worth preserving. You could use something like NOR-V-GEN leather paste that will soak into the leather and stay there for a very long time, but like most leather balms, it will stay sticky for quite some time. I find that Fiebing's Tan-Kote provides a very good finish for old leather. It will soak deeply into the leather, bring back the original colors and help harden very soft leather to make it much more durable.

Nice little DA with very nice stocks that appear to be ivory, but some bone stocks also show that color. It would take a close-up examination to determine for certain what they are made of, but do look very old.
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The 6'' Barrel version of this model is scarce. Not a super valuable Model. This one would probably Grade 'NRA Antique VG' and with the longer Barrel would be worth a little more than a std one in the same condition. The Stocks will also have some extra value to significant value depending on the material and if they are Factory. Hard to advise on if a Factory Letter would be worth it. Definitely an unusual example so probably would be worth getting one. The Stocks, Holster and Barrel length (and a letter) would all add up in Value if you were to sell it, but only to someone who finds those extras valuable. I think glowe's estimate above is pretty right.

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If you have any spray Ballistol on the leather holster. It will soak into the leather and make it pliable again.
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I really appreciate the opinions, I was close to dumping it tomorrow for $200.
I have decided to get a letter
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