Latest to join the herd

JSR III · #1 09-10-2016, 10:18 AM

Here is my most recent acquisition to the herd.

gmborkovic · #2 09-10-2016, 11:18 AM

Jim, thank God it is not another boring HE. A real Mod-1, 3rd from the 1870s. Machines were powered by steam or water and the workers were at the factory six days a week for ten hours. The owner arrived to work by an elegant carriage. AH, the Industrial Age. During the summer, you merely opened the windows.

rct269 · #3 09-10-2016, 11:46 AM

Plumb spiffy-----the herd should be pleased!

Ralph Tremaine

JSR III · #4 09-10-2016, 11:50 AM

Mike, actually a Model one, second. No fluted cylinder or birds head stocks.

The postman just arrived and my newer newest to join the herd was just delivered. It is a blue model 1 1/2 new model that appeared to be in new condition. Alas, there is a * on the butt so very possibly went back at some point for a new paint job. I was so thrilled to see the condition online, I never even asked about any refinish. That's OK as anything done at the factory is not a negative in my mind.

My new young family continues to grow.

(Pictures will follow but now off to work on the honey do list)

H Richard · #5 09-10-2016, 12:18 PM

Right Spiffy is an understatement. You didn't find that at any yard sale.

gmborkovic · #6 09-10-2016, 01:08 PM

Jim, I have to get these glasses changed.

glowe · #7 09-10-2016, 01:14 PM

I have always avoid full plate job on any Model 1, 2nd revolver. The old saying that S&W never plated the hammer or trigger is the main reason for my caution. The pictures are small, but it looked like it may have both a plated hammer and trigger?? Also curious if the barrel is plated?? Maybe some close-ups would help.

I have a few factory refinished guns with the asterisk on the butt. The problem is that the gun could have gone in for repair only and refinished outside the factory at a later date. I like the idea of not discounting value for factory refinishes, but almost all my asterisk guns were purchased well below the value estimates for their condition. I guess we have to realize that a refinish of any kind negatively affects value, as they are only original once.

JSR III · #8 09-10-2016, 05:22 PM

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I have always avoid full plate job on any Model 1, 2nd revolver. The old saying that S&W never plated the hammer or trigger is the main reason for my caution.

I agree, but I asked Roy and he said that he has seen a lot of nickel plated hammers and triggers but the records on full plated guns do not say whether that includes the hammer and/or trigger, so who knows. I certainly think that a) it doesn't affect function, b) if a customer requested it and was willing to pay any extra charge for it, I am sure S&W would oblige.

I removed the side plate and from looking at the hammer, it appears to only be plated where it can be seen above the frame. If done aftermarket, in my humble opinion it was well done. I would think that Bubba's bumper shop would have merely plated the entire surface rather than take the care to just plate the exposed surfaces.

As promised, photos below of the newer newest addition to the herd. A blue model 1 1/2 new model that may have been refinished but the cylinder and inside barrel show very little use so again, who knows.

glowe · #9 09-10-2016, 07:16 PM

The standard opinion as to why the factory did not plate those parts was that the added thickness of the plating could cause binding since the tolerances were so close. The fact that the part of the hammer that contacts the frame and internal parts was not plated is interesting. I have a Model 1 1/2, 1st and it is all nickel plated. Jim Supica was selling the gun as original and stated that there was no indication of a refinish, but I would not make any guarantee to a prospective buyer. I really like the Model 1 1/2 and your blued one is very nice. In case you have not shot any of them yet, don't get your hopes up for high accuracy.

gmborkovic · #10 09-10-2016, 07:51 PM

Jim, I like your pics, but they are so darn small. Best

JSR III · #11 09-10-2016, 08:07 PM

Mike, if you click on the photo it will enlarge one time. (At least it does for me) I like using thumbnails because a year from now the photo will still be here unlike so many threads I see with a PHOTOBUCKET page saying PHOTO NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

mmaher94087 · #12 09-10-2016, 08:16 PM

Jim, Gary,
Don't sweat the nickel plating. S&W sub-contracted the plating during that period. Anything could happen as it was beyond S&W's control. "The old saying that S&W never plated the hammer or trigger.." I feel started with the Top Break revolvers as S&W was plating their revolvers in-house by then and Case Colors were the norm. Both of the plated revolvers appear to be original plating and both are very nice examples. Congratulations to you both.

policerevolvercollector · #13 09-11-2016, 12:15 AM

That is absolutely elegant!! Very nice find!!