Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-01-2017, 05:12 PM
M_conrad_0311 M_conrad_0311 is offline
Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: TN - Tennessee
Posts: 62
Likes: 23
Liked 50 Times in 18 Posts
Default .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?

Looks to be a 6" nickle with possible factory MOP grips. It has some significant edge wear through nickle. Matching SN 407xx era barrel, frame and cylinder. No number on MOP grips, does have stamped letters REP under L grip? What would you pay for this little guy? Seems to be a pretty honest little pistol that grabbed my attn for some reason.
Attached Thumbnails
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-0501171629-jpg   .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-0501171629b-jpg   .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-0501171632-jpg   .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-0501171633-jpg   .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-0501171628-jpg  

__________________
Matthew
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 05-01-2017, 05:21 PM
les.b's Avatar
les.b les.b is offline
US Veteran
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: May 2015
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 2,803
Likes: 34,117
Liked 8,079 Times in 2,182 Posts
Default

If I've learned anything over the years, it's that when something "grabs your attention" you'd better just go ahead and buy it, or you won't sleep sound for awhile. If you make a mistake and end up with something you don't want, you can always sell it...

I only have one similar revolver, but that looks like a nice one, and those MOPs look like real Smiths, at least from what I can see in the photos.

Best Regards, Les
__________________
SWCA 3084, SWHF 495, PGCA 3064
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-01-2017, 06:08 PM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is online now
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 3,352
Likes: 200
Liked 1,647 Times in 990 Posts
Default

Mr. 0311, how much do they want? Shop or private sale? I like it, cute little gun. Has some real things going for it if you collect SHs. Best.
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 05-01-2017, 08:03 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,143
Likes: 26
Liked 5,522 Times in 3,446 Posts
Default

It's a nicer than average example with a scarce barrel length and what appear to be factory MOP stocks. Not your typical finish worn, pitted bore $200 example - maybe about twice that?
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 05-01-2017, 08:07 PM
JSR III's Avatar
JSR III JSR III is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Massachusetts USA
Posts: 6,829
Likes: 2,201
Liked 4,811 Times in 1,991 Posts
Default

Looks nice to me. Not sure what the REP means but it is in the location where S&W usually put dates when guns were sent back to the factory for repair work.

Maybe it was a sales reps sample and was marked REP for that reason so it wouldn't be sold as new.
__________________
James Redfield
LM #497
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 05-01-2017, 09:21 PM
M_conrad_0311 M_conrad_0311 is offline
Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: TN - Tennessee
Posts: 62
Likes: 23
Liked 50 Times in 18 Posts
Default

At shop, on consignment, asking $475. Didn't think about sales rep, thought it could stand for repair. Would these models be marked with an N for nickle as later examples were? Which model is this SH?
__________________
Matthew
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-01-2017, 09:51 PM
M_conrad_0311 M_conrad_0311 is offline
Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: TN - Tennessee
Posts: 62
Likes: 23
Liked 50 Times in 18 Posts
Default

From what I have read, I am guessing early 3rd model by SN, maybe 1890 production?
__________________
Matthew
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-01-2017, 11:37 PM
mojave30cal's Avatar
mojave30cal mojave30cal is offline
Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 2,258
Liked 1,915 Times in 589 Posts
Default

Looks like a .38 Safety Hammerless 2nd. model with an un-
common barrel length. MOP grips could be factory, but only
a letter will verify. If the lock up and timing is good, and the
barrel is not too pitted, I'd grab it for $475.00.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 05-02-2017, 06:52 AM
JSR III's Avatar
JSR III JSR III is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Massachusetts USA
Posts: 6,829
Likes: 2,201
Liked 4,811 Times in 1,991 Posts
Default

At $475 it would probably be in Massachusetts by now.
__________________
James Redfield
LM #497
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 05-02-2017, 10:48 AM
glowe's Avatar
glowe glowe is offline
US Veteran

.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 6,610
Likes: 376
Liked 2,746 Times in 1,555 Posts
Default

I believe you have a 2nd Model and not a 3rd Model, probably shipped around 1890 as stated above. There were about 37,000 of this model made. The barrel length appears to be 5”, of which about 13% of the total production of all Safeties were 5”. Check out the image below for all standard barrel lengths of the 38 Safety.

ADDED: I guess I should have identified the barrel lengths for these Safeties - Top to bottom: 6", 5", 4", 3 1/4", and 2".

The initials might also be a prior owner’s initials, a company identification, or any number of other options. If you acquire the gun and are feeling lucky, a factory letter might tell you that the gun went directly to a person with those initials.

As for value, I wish that these revolvers would command more money and get the prices they deserve, but not the case yet. I am buying 38 Safeties in blue finish, similar to the condition of your example for $350. If nickel, usually less, BUT the original pear stocks will bring it back up to maybe $375. Depends on how badly you want the gun, but I would offer something south of $400 and pretend to start walking if the shop doesn’t come up with a counter-offer. You can be sure they currently have the price at what they think is high retail, so do some negotiating. Good luck.
Attached Thumbnails
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?-p1010007-jpg  
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515 Grip is a verb

Last edited by glowe; 05-03-2017 at 09:19 AM. Reason: added content
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 05-02-2017, 11:00 AM
M_conrad_0311 M_conrad_0311 is offline
Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: TN - Tennessee
Posts: 62
Likes: 23
Liked 50 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Gary, I am not finding an image attached. Am I not looking in correct place for it?
__________________
Matthew
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-02-2017, 11:04 AM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is online now
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 3,352
Likes: 200
Liked 1,647 Times in 990 Posts
Default

Consignments at a shop can be tricky. Try an offer. Most of the nickel guns
I have had and seen, have some peeling. These were pocket pistols, so
carried a lot. Try $375. Best
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #13  
Old 05-02-2017, 05:06 PM
JSR III's Avatar
JSR III JSR III is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Massachusetts USA
Posts: 6,829
Likes: 2,201
Liked 4,811 Times in 1,991 Posts
Default

If you PM the shop name and phone number I will contact them and see if I am able to negotiate a better price.
__________________
James Redfield
LM #497
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #14  
Old 05-02-2017, 07:27 PM
tjpopkin's Avatar
tjpopkin tjpopkin is offline
SWCA Member
.38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special? .38 Hamerless safety for sale at LGS. Anything special?  
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 48
Liked 2,248 Times in 420 Posts
Default

If anyone is interested in .38 hammerless as well as .38DA....
I have a few for sale that are truly nice.....
PM me....or terry@popkinphoto.com
__________________
Terry
SWCA, SWHS, IWLA, NRA
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1890's 38 safety hamerless registered magnum S&W Antiques 6 02-11-2014 08:10 AM
S & W 32 safety hamerless age Ronbo S&W Antiques 1 02-18-2013 07:35 PM
Help with a .32 Safety Hamerless 158Grain S&W Antiques 3 02-04-2013 11:30 AM
38 hamerless safety 2" bicycle gun ... value? X-RingDistroyer S&W Antiques 9 01-18-2012 01:57 AM
38 Safety Hamerless 3rd model walnutred S&W Antiques 6 05-30-2010 05:45 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:50 PM.


S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2015
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)