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06-14-2017, 03:51 PM
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Safety Hammerless 32 S/N# Help
Can someone tell me when a Safety Hammerless 32 with serial number 134541 would have been made?
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06-14-2017, 03:56 PM
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Close serial numbers were shipped in late 1904 and early 1905. That does not guarantee your gun was shipped in that period, as S&W did not ship guns in serial number sequence. Only a factory historical letter will verify the exact date your gun was shipped. Ed.
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06-14-2017, 04:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opoefc
Close serial numbers were shipped in late 1904 and early 1905. That does not guarantee your gun was shipped in that period, as S&W did not ship guns in serial number sequence. Only a factory historical letter will verify the exact date your gun was shipped. Ed.
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I'm a dealer so my main concern was whether or not it was considered an antique or not. So, definitely made after 1898 then. Thanks for the quick reply!
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06-15-2017, 06:32 AM
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Remember that the ATF uses manufacture date as the date used to determine antique status. Since S&W did not keep records of manufacture date except in the floor foreman's logs, they use the shipping date to estimate the age. Some frames of early S&W were all made prior to 1898 and are therefore considered antiques even though many did not ship until after 1898.
Not sure about the safety hammer less models but I know it is true for other models. IIRC, the other date factoid that I read is that ALL tip ups and top breaks are considered antiques. That is similar to the fact that all non model marked guns are now considered to be C&R eligible since this was done in 1957/8 and the 50 year requirement now takes us back to anything prior to 1967.
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06-15-2017, 11:36 AM
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"..the other date factoid that I read is that ALL tip ups and top breaks are considered antiques." All Tip ups; YES. All Top Breaks; NO.
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06-15-2017, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSR III
Remember that the ATF uses manufacture date as the date used to determine antique status. Since S&W did not keep records of manufacture date except in the floor foreman's logs, they use the shipping date to estimate the age. Some frames of early S&W were all made prior to 1898 and are therefore considered antiques even though many did not ship until after 1898.
Not sure about the safety hammer less models but I know it is true for other models. IIRC, the other date factoid that I read is that ALL tip ups and top breaks are considered antiques. That is similar to the fact that all non model marked guns are now considered to be C&R eligible since this was done in 1957/8 and the 50 year requirement now takes us back to anything prior to 1967.
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I had a Double Action Frontier 44-40 a couple of months ago that fell into the "frames before 1898" category. My understanding was all those frames were made prior to 1898. I just assumed the Safety Hammerless probably didn't fit into that category so I've ran the stolen check and logged it in.
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06-15-2017, 08:11 PM
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BigG, Google: The Pre-1899 Antique Guns FAQ by James Wesley Rawles. He has a listing of serial number cut-offs for many gun makers. Per his findings: S&W .32 Safety Hammerless revolvers BELOW serial number 91,400 are antique.
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