this is the actual revolver a S&W second mod. I don't know the serial number yet,It's going to take time to get it from Montreal. Any info would be appreciated.

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You should really have posted this in the Antique section. It will probably be moved. It is a .38 (.38 S&W) Single Action, Second Model, made ca. 1877-91. Total production 108,225. Basically a continuation of the First Model, AKA the "Baby Russian."

From the photos it looks very nice .38 SA 2nd model, , perhaps almost new condition, if not refinished. The stocks are the early type with the S&W letters, not the logo, so it may be a low serial number for a 2nd model, or the stocks are not original to the gun. Walt's info. is correct. Ed.

Hi I got serial number for the revolver it's 17883. Thanks

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With the block-style S & W on the stocks, it had to been manufactured between late-1878 to early-1879. Gustave Young designed the intertwined logo, which was filed with the US Patent Office on Jan. 29, 1878. It took some time to change the logo design of the hard rubber stocks of the day.

Added: here is a link that addressed the dating of the stock logos. Further information is available in a Commentary I did last year. http://smith-wessonforum.com/blog.php?b=111

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If the stocks are original to the gun, they will have the serial number 17883 scratched, penciled or stamped on the back of the right panel. If not, or a different number, they are replacements. Ed.

I have several of these in the first (baby Russian) and second models. Mine vary from near pristine to 'run over by a truck' condition. They are great shooters. I even 'played' with one that was in rough shape and reamed the cylinder to take .38 Special full wadcutters. They are short enough to fit and light enough loads to not exceed the .38 S&W. The soft wadcutters open up enough to grab the .360 lands of the .38 S&W barrel. Another one that had a bulged barrel, I shortened to 'bicycle gun' length. With all that said, these were designed for black powder loads which have a different pressure characteristic than smokeless loads. Too many smokeless loads will start to stretch the frame, causing looseness.

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My Baby Russian for comparison --

I could never get my arms around the no trigger guard look, but the revolvers pictured so far in this thread are very nice indeed.

I agree, but these single action guns are relatively safe unless you carry it around fully cocked. The biggest safety issue for these early revolvers is if they are dropped on the hammer, since there was no hammer block safety.

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