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10-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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S&W 1 1/2 .32 S&W looking for info
S&W 1 1/2 .32 S&W looking for info on when it was made. Serial # 7391
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10-18-2017, 03:45 PM
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I do not have any answers for you but just wanted to remark on what beautiful shape that gun is in for its age. Do you have any knowledge of a refinish?
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Welcome to the Forum. I might suggest that you call that revolver a 32 Single Action. Without the great pictures you provided, it could easily be confused with the Model 1 1/2 tip-up made from 1865 to 1875. Both were 32 caliber as well, but the Model 1 1/2 was a rimfire cartridge, while the 32 SA was a centerfire 32 S&W.
If you look at the bottom of the box, I would be curious if there is a matching number handwritten? Ship date could have likely been 1878, which was the first year of that model's production.
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10-18-2017, 05:44 PM
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Thanks Guys
Thanks for correcting me on the model. In answer to questions:
I have no knowledge of a re-finish and it doesn't look like it to me, but that doesn't mean much. The script on top of the barrel is sharp and doesn't look "filled in". Screw slots, with the exception of the grip screw look unturned.
The serial # is penciled on the bottom of the box.
Now more questions: I assume the fiber material is for cleaning?
What about the piece of pumice like rock? If that's what it is, and the square nail?
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The fiber material, nail and rock are not S&W. The fiber material looks like an antique Bore Snake while the nail and rock would have been a rudimentary reloading set. I guess I have too much time on my hands...
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10-18-2017, 08:06 PM
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doesn't look refinished to me; more like a near mint original and going by the SN penciled in the box; I'd say that's just what you have.
I just turned a deep shade of green as that's really the only S&W model I'm still seriously looking for now; well maybe a Model of 1891 also......
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The .32 Single Action (AKA New Model 1 1/2 .32 CF) is an interesting revolver to collect. The first 100 examples did not have a rebounding hammer (half-cock notch instead). Early examples had an eccentric mainspring strain screw that was hidden by the stocks. Later they changed to the 'normal' strain screw in the front strap. Not only are there numerous barrel lengths, nickel and blue finishes (scarce) but there are several stock monograms and stock colors such as the mottled red. Paste board boxes are found in several colors like Russet Red and Green (Mustard Yellow has been observed). They are found in wood casings put together by the distributors. Engraved examples exist. Smith & Wesson made a (rarely seen) wood box. The only box made by S&W.
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10-19-2017, 06:45 AM
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Wow what a nice examlple of a cool old revolver ,thanks for posting.
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The attached are a couple of 32 SA, 2nd Issue. I was able to locate one of the Blued ones, with red mottled grips. The grips also came in green, yellow and I heard blue. I have never seen any of those. (Just the two at the bottom).
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Thanks to all!
I learned a lot. Thanks for sharing.
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11-09-2017, 11:45 AM
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Nice revolver! I just picked up a .32 Centerfire Model 1-1/2 from Gunbroker with 3-inch barrel, nickel refinished. No box.
And look at that nail in your box - that is a collectors item by itself. Very cool.
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That finish looks beautiful. On the one bottom pic, is that a chip out of the right grip?
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.32 SA
Fishead, glad to see your boxed .32. It shows that the non-emblem grips were retained after the strain screw change. Always wondered when that happened. My photos show the lack of strain screw early model. Got it at a show in Iowa about 20 years ago.
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info from S&W Historian
Here's the info included in the S&W letter I got back. I am also going to sell this and a few other guns I don't shoot. A recent break in was the final straw. No guns were stolen but I'd hate to see some druggy get what should be preserved.
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fishhead,
I just saw your post, and your .32 Single Action is close to the one I have that belonged to my grandfather. The serial number on mine is 7692, 301 numbers past yours. Mine was shipped 20 days after yours, on Sept. 20, 1878 also to M. W. Robinson.
I don't have a box, but mine is blue finish with smooth walnut stocks. The unique aspect of mine is that Roy Jinks stated in the letter, that it is the highest recorded serial number with a main spring cam adjustment.
This eccentric mainspring strain screw adjustment, inside the grip frame, hidden by the stocks, was discontinued around serial number 6500.
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Reviving this thread; at least for a moment. Out of the ten or so .32 CF Single Actions that I have, I don't have one with wood stocks. I find it interesting that 7692 has wood where 4060 has hard rubber stocks. Probably another example of never-say-never with Smith & Wesson products.
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Mike,
I think I had 8 or so .32 CF Single Actions, and this was the only example with wood stocks. I'm not sure where I obtained this information, but the wood stocks were scarce, and I thought I read somewhere that they were only put on the blued guns.
"Grips were usually checkered hard rubber. Mostly black, but some were brown, some a greenish color as well as red mottled. Plain wood grips being scarce.
There were three styles of hard rubber grips: Serial numbers
1-15000 were plain checkered with no S&W logo. Also plain wood grips. SN 15000-29000 were checkered with plain block letter S&W logo. SN 29000-97500 were checkered with fancy intertwined S&W logo."
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