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Old 04-12-2018, 09:51 PM
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It's been a few years since I was a member, but with my next purchase, I wanted to get your thoughts. It appears to be a .32 Safety Hammerless. I don't have the memory I used to, but read a few articles about the history, and will be picking it up for a price I found pretty reasonable.

My main source of intrigue is the mother-of-pearl grips with a S&W inlay. It is in good shape aside from a small chip on the top left panel, and I sold an I-Frame pair several year ago for a good sum. I would love to hear what y'all would value these at, or any information on how common they are. Background blurred because I have not done the papers yet.

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Old 04-13-2018, 10:11 AM
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Welcome to the forum. Don't really have a good handle on values on these guns but typically they are not high unless the gun is in pristine condition because so many were made.

Many times the stocks alone if original can bring more than the gun. Others with more knowledge will be along soon to answer your questions.
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:19 AM
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I would believe the stocks may be worth more than the gun, depending on that chip, possibly in the $200 range.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:47 PM
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Thanks for the welcome. Here are more pics, just brought it home.
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Old 04-13-2018, 03:01 PM
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Chances are that a gun this old has a long time accumulation of old grease, crud and assorted critter remains residing in the action. I good interior cleaning will usually solve the type of problem you mention. If the pearl stocks are original o the gun, the gun's serial number would be inked on he back side of the panels. Ed.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! The spring on the grip safety is probably broken.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:40 PM
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I'm embarrassed that the issue previously mentioned was due to the angle at which I was holding the grip. Asserting more pressure to the top of the grip resolved it. The revolver was also mislabeled as .32, it is a .38.
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Thanks for the welcome. Here are more pics, just brought it home.
On nickel guns with distressed finishes like this I rub some Birchwood Casey rust remover on the rust spots to make them bare steel again and then oil it. The bare steel blends with the nickel better and makes the bare areas stand out less.
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On nickel guns with distressed finishes like this I rub some Birchwood Casey rust remover on the rust spots to make them bare steel again and then oil it. The bare steel blends with the nickel better and makes the bare areas stand out less.
Thanks for the heads up. I will try that on my off day and post the results. What oil do you use?
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:18 AM
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The serial number is 228xxx, I had looked through a few threads to try and approximate the manufacturing date, but could not find it. Anyone know an estimate?
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I have a Safety Hammerless in the 211xxx range, and I think it dates from around 1917. Mine is a blued 3" in .32 cal.
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I have a Safety Hammerless in the 211xxx range, and I think it dates from around 1917. Mine is a blued 3" in .32 cal.
Thanks Charlie. Another post I saw would indicate mine is most likely mid to late 1920s, but I will wait for someone wiser than myself to confirm.

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Thanks for the heads up. I will try that on my off day and post the results. What oil do you use?
I just use Breakfree CLP for oil. With the rust remover just use a q-tip and gently rub the rusty areas only. It takes a little while but eventually they will turn silver again.
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I just use Breakfree CLP for oil. With the rust remover just use a q-tip and gently rub the rusty areas only. It takes a little while but eventually they will turn silver again.
I'll give it a shot and post pics of the results.
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