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Old 04-25-2018, 04:15 PM
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I am looking at a safety hammerless sn: 123xxx . If I’m reading my standard catalog correctly it is a 4th model made between 1898-1907 . The gun is in good? shape and extremely tight condition and is 38 S&W. Tight as like a couple of new j-frames we compared it to. The holster is like nothing I ever saw before and some of the stitching is deteriorating and coming apart . Can someone identify the holster and tell if I got the model correct and would 300.00 for both be reasonable?
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Look at the stamp on the holster under light, I believe it's the Montgomery Ward logo. That style of holster was called a pocket holster, they were very popular in the early years of the 20th Century. Most were hardware or sporting goods brand holsters, higher end makers had similar offerings.
Nice revolver and that is a period correct holster.
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It is a 4th Model, and this model's serial number range was from 116,003 to 220,000. Made from 1898 to 1907, but the cut-off for antique classification is 119,900 and that means this revolver would be considered a modern firearm. It would have almost certainly been manufactured in 1899.

I have found a lot of 32 and 38 Safety nickel revolvers in the price range you have noted, but none with such a neat holster. With over 500,000 32 Safeties and over 250,000 38 Safeties manufactured, prices remain low. I think that a huge percentage of both calibers have survived and many are in excellent condition.
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Around here, the top breaks rarely get over $200 even in top condition. The holster might have some collector value. If you do decide to acquire them, the big gorilla suggested Blackrock Leather n Rich to me and I found it works very well to halt dry rot.
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Cool gun especially with the correct holster I would pat 3 bills for it and laugh at the seller lol.
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Here's a pocket holster from the 1902 Sears Roebuck Company catalog.
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I picked up a period holster with a Colt Lightning last year. It was in decent shape, but was starting to dry out and had some stitching that had come loose. I took it to a cobbler here in town and he was able to make the minor stitching repair as well as clean and put some kind of moisturizer on the leather. Cost me $50 bucks, but was worth it when I sold the pistol. Might give it a try if you know a reputable one.

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A "cobbler"? What century are you in?
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Would you believe the guy calls his shop, "The Village Cobbler?" Just used his name.

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