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Old 07-27-2018, 06:42 PM
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I am looking for a cylinder stop pin, or a good picture of one so I can make one. The spring is still there, but correct orientation would be appreciated as well.

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Old 07-28-2018, 10:22 AM
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after much googling, now I am not even sure of my model
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Old 07-28-2018, 12:00 PM
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.38 Single Action, 2nd Model. AKA Second Model, 2nd Issue .38 SA.
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Welcome to the forum.

Try Numrich. They have a bunch of parts for this model although I think that the one you are looking for is out of stock. Contact them and double check as they get new parts in all the time.

Perhaps if someone has one, even if not interested in selling, they could post a photo so you know what to look for.
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If you are still looking I may have one. Would have to dig a little, but I am pretty sure I have the cylinder stop for the .38 . I had bought one for my .32 and it was bigger, and would not fit. Pretty sure that makes it a .38 version. PM me if you are still in search and I will look to see if I have it.

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OK - I received your PM and relied about details of the gun you needed one for - This thread gives me the answer . You have a single action in .38 S&W with the spur trigger. I will look for mine tomorrow and PM you with the information.

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after much googling, now I am not even sure of my model . . .
It is a confusing model designation and the company did not make it any easier using terms like Model 11/2 and Model 2 on two totally different revolvers. In the 1860s, S&W came out with the Model 1 1/2 and Model 2 tip-up revolvers, both in 32RF Long caliber. In the 1870s, the company again used the same model names with their new design top break line. The Model 1 1/2 was a 32 S&W caliber spur trigger and the Model 2 was a 38 S&W caliber spur trigger gun.

I have not ran across Mike's Second Model, 2nd Issue .38 SA, but during the manufacture of the 38 Single Action revolver it was called New Model 38, No. 2 revolver. I have an 1883 Broadside advertising poster that uses that name, as well as an 1880s S&W catalog.

Let me add a schematic for your 38 SA, 2nd.

Many decades ago, S&W authors and collecrtors came up with the 38 Single Action, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Model designations. The 38 Single Action, 1st was also called the Baby Russian, the 2nd Model is what you have, and the 3rd Model was also called the Model of 1891. Roy Jink's book states your gun should have that name, plus adds the Model No. 2 Second Model and New Model .38 No. 2 (Single Action) Is that all confusing enough?? Just use 38 Single Action, 2nd Model and call it a day.

As for the "cylinder stop pin" are you talking about the round pin that hold the cylinder stop in place or the stop itself? We can provide you dimensions on the pin so you could make another??

Pictures are of my 1883 Broadside, showing the 32 Single Action and the 38 Single Action, 2nd Model and the Model 1 1/2 and Model 2 Tip-ups for comparison.
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Your last diagram shows the part as #129 and that is the one I have. I just sent you a PM with cost and shipping information. If you don't receive the PM give me another shout. I will consider it sold to you and will ship upon payment arrival. If you change your mind let me know.

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