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08-26-2018, 11:40 PM
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Researching My Schofield 45 S&W
Hey everyone I have a .45 S&W Schofield made in 1876. I need to see if someone can help me a little on maybe identifying some marks. On the bottom of the handle it has the initials TA and under that is has 38 NC W. I have no idea what this could be. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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08-27-2018, 01:25 PM
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Welcome to the Forum. Is your Schofield a 1st or 2nd model? Are the numbers matching on all parts ? We need good clear photos of all markings, etc, including the stampings on the butt, that you cite. What is the serial number of your Schofield? From the info. you have proved, so far, it is probable that the marks you mention are either a militia mark ( State Guard ) or someone's initials. however w/o all the info. requested, it would be difficult to precisely answer your inquiry. Ed .
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08-27-2018, 04:11 PM
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The serial number is 5189, and its a second model. Right now I don't have any photos of it on line but will try and post some soon. All numbers do match.
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08-27-2018, 04:16 PM
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The serial number is 5189, and its a second model. Right now I don't have any photos of it on line but will try and post some soon. All numbers do match.
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SN 5541 2nd Model Schofield shipped October, 1876.
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08-27-2018, 04:18 PM
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Ed it is also marked US on bottom of handle. Like I said serial number is 5189.
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08-27-2018, 05:10 PM
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2nd model Schofields can either be military shipped guns or civilian shipped guns. The US stamp on the butt is no guarantee it is a military gun. Does it have a cartouche on the grips? Where are all the inspector/fitters stamps and what letters/numbers are they? The gun needs to be disassembled completely to see all the marks, but they are vital clues as to the nature of the gun. You should order a factory historical letter for the gun. Ed.
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08-27-2018, 05:13 PM
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I wanna see it, cuz I doubt I will ever own one....
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08-27-2018, 05:20 PM
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I do have a factory letter for it and yes it has a cartouche on the grips.
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08-27-2018, 05:32 PM
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So what does the factory letter say, and what is the cartouche?
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08-28-2018, 01:07 AM
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Are those initials/marks on the metal part of the grip frame bottom, or on the wood of the stocks ? Or Both, if so, which are where? How are they applied? Scratched, engraved, stamped, etc. ? Have you researched the military archives for the period to see if your Schofield shows up as assigned to any Army unit's small arms inventory? Ed.
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08-28-2018, 08:30 AM
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Welcome to the forum.
Is it me or are some neat guns coming out of the woodwork lately? There is an adage used here on the forum that goes "without photos, it didn't happen". Similarly, when trying to get information about a specific gun, it is almost impossible to give accurate answers without well lit close up photos from all angles.
Especially those guns where there might be historical significance. Unfortunately, as these guns go up in value, the "fakers" will go to great lengths to add marks to take a plain Jane gun and make it one with historical significance to collectors or in other words increase the value.
Many of the experts here will therefore not give out specific details as to how to determine the correctness of a gun merely to keep that information out of the hands of potential "fakers" that might join here looking for tips.
So, all that said, if you can take some cell phone close ups from all angles it would help the experts greatly.
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08-30-2018, 05:13 PM
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Ok, the initials TA are scratched into the wood on the bottom of the handle or grip. the numbers 38 NC W are stamped into the metal of the bottom of the grip. How would I go about checking the military archives as you mentioned? If you want you can call me at 405-240-3956.
David
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