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Old 09-18-2018, 11:33 AM
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I bid on a 32 Safety Hammerless at auction a couple weeks ago. I have several, but have been having trouble finding a 6” 32 Safety. This one came up and looked to be in pretty good shape, so I put a bid of $190 and went back to watch it as the auction progressed. Surprisingly, it sold for that price, so with premium and shipping, it ended up at my door for $250.

32 Safety Hammerless, 2nd Model, serial number 137788 was shipped in Feb. 1905 in nickel finish. Oh, I did have to buy a new firing pin for $15 so add that to the cost. Tom (tlay) graciously helped me with instructions on how to remove the broken one and install the new pin. The gun and I just returned from the range and functioned flawlessly. Accuracy for such a long barrel was not anything to brag about, but I did hit the paper. Value in SCSW4 shows Excellent (80% Nickel) - $400 and states 6” barrel is worth double. Would anyone pay $800 for this S&W – not me.

Anyway, I now have all the standard barrel lengths for the 32 Safety and a matching barrel length to my little 32 Double Action revolver. Just curious what to you all think about a proper value to be assigned to a gun like this one?
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I am not up on the value of these but as far as the coolness scale it is definitely a 100. Just love the long barrel.

Did you shoot it from a rest or off hand? If off hand, it may be you and not the gun. Just saying. I know that my guns shoot way better than I do.
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Nice.

Those long-barreled versions were a bit of an oddity since the hammerless design was intended for pocket carry.
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I am not up on the value of these but as far as the coolness scale it is definitely a 100. Just love the long barrel.

Did you shoot it from a rest or off hand? If off hand, it may be you and not the gun. Just saying. I know that my guns shoot way better than I do.
Don't forget, this is DA only.
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Don't forget, this is DA only.
Not exactly - the Safety revolvers has an interesting trigger pull design. You have to give it a tug, but if you pull it slowly, the trigger comes to rest at the break point. With a little practice, one can turn these DA only guns into a SA trigger pull. I did both off-hand and at rest shooting, and I have never found this model to be particularly accurate, but I guess that was not their intended purpose.
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Beauty---and anything else worth talking about is "in the eye of the beholder". In this case, SCSW says a 6" barrel is worth double because the consensus said it was worth double. The fact you were/are not part of that consensus is just that---a fact---neither right nor wrong---just so.

Those who would pay double will be delighted to know you're not going to be a competitor for the next one that comes along. Nor will I for that matter, as I am one of those who doesn't even understand why guns without adjustable sights even exist.

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I think yours is a bargain.
I think all the antique S&W's are bargains.
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I am one of those who doesn't even understand why guns without adjustable sights even exist.

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Yes, there are, but not as frequent as there was 10-15 years ago. Sometimes a seller doesn't know just what they have, sometimes several buyers just don't recognize just what the gun is. I found a S&W Number 1 1st Issue , 3rd type (only 1870 made). It was in an auction, I spotted it all dirty laying on the table among a bunch of black plastic wonder nines. I recognized what it was and evidently no one else did, (this was also an on line Proxibid auction). I bid up to $225 and won it. I'll let you look up what a VG to Fine one is worth in the SCSW4.

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. . . I am one of those who doesn't even understand why guns without adjustable sights even exist.

There are different strokes for different folks----'twas always thus.
Well Ralph, it all boils down to how fast one can reload and shoot those fixed sight revolvers. To me, no target sights means you just need more ammo.
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I think yours is a bargain . . .
Well I certainly agree with that as for what I paid, but am more curious about how many people would put down $800 for the gun?? Value is mostly driven by supply & demand issues and while the supply is limited, so is the demand, and if no one is willing to pay, there is no demand and low value - a vicious circle or a downward spiral or . . .
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There are lots of bargains out there but not to many at auctions
or shows. I have always got guys calling me from gun shows.
They say I'm at so&so gun show and I found exactly the gun
you are looking for. Then they hit me with the price. From that
I know it wasn't "found" because it wasn't "lost". I'm lucky the
area I live in everybody had guns. Even people that don't use
them. You never know what might be at a yard sale or what they
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Yes, there are, but not as frequent as there was 10-15 years ago. Sometimes a seller doesn't know just what they have, sometimes several buyers just don't recognize just what the gun is. I found a S&W Number 1 1st Issue , 3rd type (only 1870 made). It was in an auction, I spotted it all dirty laying on the table among a bunch of black plastic wonder nines. I recognized what it was and evidently no one else did, (this was also an on line Proxibid auction). I bid up to $225 and won it. I'll let you look up what a VG to Fine one is worth in the SCSW4.

Insert green emoji of envy here . Great find, enjoy!
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I don't know what the actual value would be, but it certainly is more than $190. Good find
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That is a fine looking safety hammerless, Gary! Congratulations!


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