Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Antiques

Notices

S&W Antiques S&W Lever Action Pistols, Tip-Up Revolvers, ALL Top-Break Revolvers, and ALL Single Shots


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-08-2018, 11:03 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair

Here is my latest aqusition. Unfortunately the case is missing a side and a divider. Does anyone know sombody who can repair the case?
Thanks
Mark
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20181108_181950.jpg (102.3 KB, 221 views)
File Type: jpg 20181108_182042.jpg (85.8 KB, 158 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 11-09-2018, 09:13 AM
Jaxenro Jaxenro is offline
Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 80
Likes: 3
Liked 95 Times in 24 Posts
Default

Is that a factory case? If so would you mind posting pictures with a ruler if like to have a copy made

BTW you could try Bills Cases I don’t know if he does repairs but he makes exact copies of Colt percussion Revolver cases and they are works of art I have about 4 of them

Last edited by Jaxenro; 11-09-2018 at 09:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-09-2018, 09:20 AM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,876
Likes: 979
Liked 18,991 Times in 9,293 Posts
Default

It is not my collecting area, but I suspect this is a non-factory case with the box lid from the original cardboard box glued into its top. One of the antique collectors should be along shortly...(edit to add - with the correct answer ).
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

Last edited by murphydog; 11-09-2018 at 11:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-09-2018, 09:25 AM
Club Gun Fan's Avatar
Club Gun Fan Club Gun Fan is offline
S&W Historian
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,959
Likes: 3,393
Liked 11,327 Times in 2,891 Posts
Default

This box is absolutely a factory box and very collectible. If you look on page 60 of Neal & Jinks, you'll see another example. I also know of another collector that has one. Your box is worth repairing.
__________________
Don Mundell
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 11-09-2018, 09:39 AM
glowe's Avatar
glowe glowe is offline
US Veteran

32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 12,965
Likes: 3,047
Liked 14,346 Times in 5,471 Posts
Default

Don beat me to it. The box is also missing a small divider in the upper right corner as evidenced by the slot. The box should be no big deal to repair and you might want to look for an expert at furniture restoration. Nice find.
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 11-09-2018, 11:48 AM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,583
Likes: 4
Liked 2,515 Times in 1,306 Posts
Default

Trivia: the first 100 or so of the .32 Single Action revolvers had a half-cock notch. After the first 100; S&W went to the rebounding hammer and eliminated the half-cock. There were two printings of the box label. The first printing shown above has "Half cock the arm,.." directly after 'DIRECTIONS FOR USE.-'. That line has been partially blacked out in this example. The second printing eliminated any reference to the half-cock and the wording began with "Raise the barrel catch..". These boxes were the only boxes made by Smith & Wesson and are quite hard to find.
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 11-09-2018, 01:11 PM
iby iby is offline
Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 947
Likes: 2,092
Liked 841 Times in 345 Posts
Default

nice gun
extra nice box
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-01-2020, 01:19 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default

Found another factory case and early gun. Wish it had the later label printing. This gun has an exterior strain screw with a serial number well below 6580. Will need to send in for a letter on this one.

Does anyone else have a gun with the exterior strain screw below 6580?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20200201_095807.jpg (43.3 KB, 71 views)
File Type: jpg 20200201_095652.jpg (172.2 KB, 113 views)
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 02-01-2020, 09:31 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default

These definatly look real to me, I would put money on it. Some of the tacks for the hinges on the last case have been replaced. The others match the ones on the first case I bought. The hinge profile is the same on both of mine, the one pictured in Neil an Jinks book, along the one pictiured in the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson by Supica and Nahas.

The first one i bought did not come with an oil can so i bought one off the E auction site. The latest one came with the oil can pictured. The one pictured in the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson has the same oil can. I have no idea if the original case came with one.
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-01-2020, 09:41 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default

Here is a copy of the letter for my first one. Sorry for the picture quality.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20200201_183726.jpg (34.0 KB, 60 views)
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 02-01-2020, 10:59 PM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,583
Likes: 4
Liked 2,515 Times in 1,306 Posts
Default

These wood boxes are the only boxes made by the S&W factory, all others were made offsite by contractors. They are very scarce or rare to find today. I have no records to indicate how many were originally made but they are not often seen and the pasteboard boxes (Red, Yellow and Green) being most prominent. I find it interesting that the letter states that the 'cases' were ordered separately by the dealer but did not say that these wood boxes were made and supplied (sold) by the factory.
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 02-02-2020, 12:24 PM
Books Books is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Kansas City, Mo
Posts: 216
Likes: 207
Liked 328 Times in 106 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boulder350 View Post
Found another factory case and early gun. Wish it had the later label printing. This gun has an exterior strain screw with a serial number well below 6580. Will need to send in for a letter on this one.

Does anyone else have a gun with the exterior strain screw below 6580?
I have No. 6495 with an outside strain screw. Unfortunately a previous owner had cut the barrel to 1 3/4 inches and bead blasted it. It had the early no logo stocks.

Books
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #13  
Old 02-02-2020, 01:17 PM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,583
Likes: 4
Liked 2,515 Times in 1,306 Posts
Default

"Does anyone else have a gun with the exterior strain screw below 6580?" #5931
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #14  
Old 02-02-2020, 06:32 PM
crossv crossv is offline
Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 327
Likes: 432
Liked 480 Times in 133 Posts
Default

"Does anyone else have a gun with the exterior strain screw below 6580?"
I have #5989 with early strain screw; engraved and inscribed.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 07-16-2022, 01:38 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default

So is this the 2nd printing of the label? It does not look like the wording is crossed off like my other examples.
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-16-2022, 02:19 PM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,583
Likes: 4
Liked 2,515 Times in 1,306 Posts
Default

Mark, that is the second printing of the label. The easiest way to tell is that the 'R' in "Raise..." is capitalized. The first printing and subsequent overprint blacks out "Half cock the arm," leaving "raise the barrel catch" uncapitalized.
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 07-16-2022, 02:22 PM
Boulder350's Avatar
Boulder350 Boulder350 is offline
SWCA Member
32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair 32 Single Action Factory Wood Case Repair  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Out West
Posts: 529
Likes: 1,245
Liked 965 Times in 284 Posts
Default

Thanks Mike.
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Model 29 Presentation Case (wood box) Repair EricR S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 12 09-27-2018 02:23 AM
Model 14-3 Single Action Only from factory THREEDFLYER S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 21 07-23-2018 12:59 PM
repair wood case felt interior docd11 The Lounge 4 06-06-2016 09:41 PM
Model 14 Factory Single Action ? Fredo Batali S&W-Smithing 8 06-21-2015 09:13 AM
*Withdrawn* Hogue Exotic Wood Ruger Single Action Grips ar33 Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 4 05-13-2012 08:23 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:25 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)