Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Antiques S&W Lever Action Pistols, Tip-Up Revolvers, Top-Break Revolvers, and ALL Single Shots


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-30-2020, 09:46 PM
Bucko's Avatar
Bucko Bucko is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 17
Liked 64 Times in 15 Posts
Default This one came with a box

I picked this up a few years ago, any info would be appreciated.
It shoots fine.

TIA
Attached Thumbnails
This one came with a box-img_0560-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0561-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0562-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0563-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0564-jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-30-2020, 10:44 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,086
Likes: 78
Liked 11,189 Times in 6,101 Posts
Default

Almost seven years between becoming a member and your first post - welcome!

It appears to be a 2nd Model, serial numbers 4241 to 42483, produced from 1887 to 1890. Knowing the serial number would be nice.
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-30-2020, 11:39 PM
BMur BMur is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: California
Posts: 868
Likes: 327
Liked 1,184 Times in 509 Posts
Default Very nice

Nice Hammerless with Pearl Grips no less.
I donít know which I like better. The gun or that amazing condition box!

Murph
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 03-31-2020, 04:29 PM
Bucko's Avatar
Bucko Bucko is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 17
Liked 64 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Murphydog thanks for te welcome, it could be that I am a slow starter, I would bet that I forgot my password and had to be an adult so I simply lurked for a little while (years).
SN is 862xx
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 03-31-2020, 04:55 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,086
Likes: 78
Liked 11,189 Times in 6,101 Posts
Default

Others here are better at the age estimates for these, but with this serial number it is in the range of the third model and likely from about 1895.
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-31-2020, 05:13 PM
geeollie geeollie is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: on the great plains
Posts: 163
Likes: 46
Liked 148 Times in 62 Posts
Default

It would be fun to know about the previous owners and their stories.
I like how that firearm looks. Some guns scream "ugly" this one does not.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-31-2020, 05:43 PM
glowe's Avatar
glowe glowe is offline
Member

This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 9,367
Likes: 1,073
Liked 6,650 Times in 3,088 Posts
Default

A re-welcome to you. The revolver is properly known as a 38 Safety, 3rd Model. Ship date would have been most likely 1893-1894.

I believe it may have been refinished in the past. There appear to be dimples around several pin and screw holes which is not how the factory work should look. It also has a grey finish that reminds me of cold blue coloration, but that could be lighting. Lastly, it is very dull, not the fine polishing of a factory gun. No big deal since there is not a great deal of value for the 38 Safety, partly because there were over a quarter-million made and many survived. I only have access to your pictures and a hands on inspection would be required to be certain of the finish.

Forgot to ask if there is a serial number on the bottom of the box?
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515

Last edited by glowe; 03-31-2020 at 05:45 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-31-2020, 06:20 PM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is online now
SWCA Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 272
Liked 3,303 Times in 1,908 Posts
Default

You believe its re-blued? That gun yells it. Tell the guy the true poop. the box is really nice.
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-31-2020, 09:04 PM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is online now
SWCA Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,489
Likes: 4
Liked 1,358 Times in 761 Posts
Default

I'm not sure that it has been reblued. What I see is a "dry" revolver that needs to be rubbed down with oil and a soft cloth-like an old Tee shirt.

To refute the reblue; there are no buffing marks around the recoil shield or dishing around the screw holes. I don't believe the side plate has ever been off the revolver as it fits perfectly, all pins and the hammer stud nut are not polished flat.

By the way, that box is the correct box for that Model of Safety Hammerless. Line #7: (blurry;hard to read) "..press the cylinder catch..". Nice revolver.
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 03-31-2020, 09:47 PM
BMur BMur is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: California
Posts: 868
Likes: 327
Liked 1,184 Times in 509 Posts
Default Photo finish?

Itís extremely difficult to evaluate blued finish in artificial light. Especially from a photograph!
It would be great to see a photo of the gun in natural light if possible. In my opinion the gun has a lot of original bluing on the barrel and protected areas where it appears dark and shiny. The other areas also show high point wear on the frame pins and hammer stud. Itís possible that itís been touched up but again, the artificial light makes that kind of evaluation very difficult.
I agree that an in hand and under natural light would provide a more fair evaluation. Otherwise itís hard to tell by these photos in my opinion.
Either way itís a very nice set and an early box. Those pearl grips fit extremely well and they donít look like after market grips but would need to see more photos to give a more accurate opinion.

Murph

Last edited by BMur; 03-31-2020 at 09:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-01-2020, 09:34 AM
SPEEDGUNNER's Avatar
SPEEDGUNNER SPEEDGUNNER is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Between the Brandywines
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 395
Liked 2,026 Times in 747 Posts
Default

Regardless of the possibility of a refinish at some point over the last 125 years that is one cute little devil of a gun and the box is AWESOME!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-01-2020, 03:32 PM
Bucko's Avatar
Bucko Bucko is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 17
Liked 64 Times in 15 Posts
Default

I am one of those essentials so I will get it out of the safe this weekend and shoot some more pics. Thanks to everyone for their comments and opinions I dare say this is kind of fun.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 04-04-2020, 11:18 AM
Bucko's Avatar
Bucko Bucko is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 17
Liked 64 Times in 15 Posts
Default

No SN on box
Attached Thumbnails
This one came with a box-img_0569-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0570-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-04-2020, 11:26 AM
Bucko's Avatar
Bucko Bucko is offline
Member
This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box This one came with a box  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 17
Liked 64 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Looking closely I am not sure the side plate ever came off. With my skills with a screwdriver I obviously have not laid a finger to those screws

Thanks again for all of the input.
Attached Thumbnails
This one came with a box-img_0571-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0572-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0576-jpg   This one came with a box-img_0579-jpg  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:18 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)