It's unfortunate that this 30-post thread was piggybacked on another thread as this 'mottled stocks' discussion will be lost once this thread closes. I seriously doubt that I'll remember to look at " Help with Model 3" when searching for mottled stocks.

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Mike Maher #283

Mike, not ideal but I believe that you can search using "mottled stocks/grips" and it will bring up odd posts not necessarily titled that way. IIRC you could also search YOUR posts and it will bring up your comments here. Obviously the more you post going forward the further this one will get buried but it's something.

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James Redfield
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Thanks, James. I guess my illegitimate twin brother is more computer illiterate than I am. Seriously, I never thought of searching a phrase as a subject.

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Mike Maher #283

Well I finally made the deal. Paid 800 out the door…….everyone in the store says the gun cannot be shot because they believe the cylinder is not locking up in sync with the barrel……now to clean it up and dismantle it…….wish me luck. If I mess it up I can always sell the grips.

Congratulations!
I think you did well.
Can you post more photos?
Do the grips have a scratched number underneath?

Murph

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No numbers under the grips and no caliber markings anywhere.

Looks like the cylinder serial matches. Nice! It's likely 44 Russian caliber.

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S&WHF #946
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Lots of crud on the inside that I will tackle in a day or so as take good pictures of the parts so I know what goes where.

Great photos!

I’d recommend that you replace that saddle link pin before it lets go. It’s badly worn.

Murph

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Which part would it be in Chicoine’s assembly illustration?




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See photo.

A replacement pin would help a lot but the boss is worn also so the proper repair would be to fit and press an oversized pin to the hammer and saddle link.

Murph

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For now, since it isn’t getting shot, I will just see about understanding the mechanism and try to find smith who might be able to help.

Well I found some .44 Russian but I am hesitant to shoot it. No smiths around here in north Texas that would know how to give it a clean bill of health. I have checked the lock up and it does work. I think the young kids at the gun shop thought the rotation of the cylinder lining up with the barrel meant it was out of time….but I don’t think that is the case. I think it is simply the cylinder locking up coming from the free wheeling state that it goes into when you break open the gun. There is no detent to hold the cylinder in line with the barrel and it freely rotates. But once you cock the gun it lines the barrel up with the cylinder, at least that is my assertion. I want to shoot it but I don’t know if I should.

If it locks up tight when you have pulled the trigger and you hold the trigger down it is probably good to go.
Rig it to fire in SA with a cord
do it a few times

That is what I was thinking….it holds tight when I hold the trigger down after pulling the trigger so I am very tempted.


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Looking at your photos, the headstamp on the ammunition shows .44 Magnum. I sincerely hope that is not what you have loaded into the cylinder, as it will send parts of the venerable revolver into low earth orbit.

I don’t think you are reading the headstamp correctly. Clearly says 44 Russian.

fortunately 44 mag will not fit.

Now my eyes are playing tricks on me! Do the chamber walls of that cylinder look extremely thin to anyone else?

Let me get a picture up, I sure would like to know. This gun may just wind up as a wall hanger.


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Some do look thinner than others.


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Mic the chamber throats. They may have been bored out or someone has removed metal from the outside of the cylinder.

This chamber looks bigger than the others. There’s no step down inside any of the chambers either.

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Maybe your monitor needs cleaning?

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That picture is the front of the cylinder. There is a step down on the back side of the cylinder.is there supposed to be a step down on the front of the cylinder?


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There should be a ring inside the chambers where the diameter steps down to a smaller diameter.
Here is a pic of the step/ring in a 44 Russian cylinder.

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Mike Maher #283

I see what you mean. The steps are ever so slight in my cylinder.


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(You may have done this already) Compare the dimensions of your chambers to those in the link below;

http://smith-wessonforum.com/redirec...%2F.44_Russian

I need to mic the chambers, but a 44 Russian fits as does a 44 special except for the length. I need to find my micrometer and get back with y’all.

A 44 Russian case is identical to the 44 S&W Special case other than length so that makes sense.

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I decided to just shoot it, and it works perfectly. Went out to the back pasture and took 12 rounds and put them into the wood pile about 5 yards out. It hit pretty close to what I was aiming at. I will go to the range with targets to better gauge its accuracy….but I am very pleased. My empty cases.

What bravery you have done

Someone had to do it…….so why not.


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