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This thread has inspired me and the wife to think about trying to obtain some of these top breaks. Especially the lemon squeezers. She saw a .32 at the gun show today that she really liked. She's a small person and it seems like these just about "fit" her. We are now retired and maybe that's something she and I can do together relative to S&W handguns! She never showed much interest in this kind of thing before.

I have an idle question: I realize that most/many of these were carried in the pocket (coat or pants, etc.), but were there any holsters made for these during their heyday? Anyone have anything in leather that was specifically made for them? Or would that have been a kind of no win idea at the time? Just curious.
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Yes there were many thousands of holsters made for them. Most were sold by the big catalog stores like Sears and Montgomery Wards. For the most part they were not maker marked. They were usually plain and simple leather with a caliber and barrel length stamped on the back. I have picked up a half dozen of them over the last few years at gun shows. I also have a rubber covered canvas holster with a belt clip that was designed especially for the small pocket revolvers. They are out there, you just have to be vigilant.
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At a local gun show, a friend just couldn't see me leave without buying something!! Said " Come on, give me $150 so I can unload this thing"

Looks like a 2nd model nickel 38 s&w Safety Hammerless..
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Here are some of the holsters available for break tops.

a pocket holster for a .32 Safety.

A pocket holster with a .32 DA break top revolver.

A shoulder holster with a .38 DA 4th.

an IWB holster made of oilcloth. for a .32 Safety. None of these holsters are marked.
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Another Top Break in a .38 SA 4th Model Mexican Serial 8889, sometimes called the Model of 1880
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This is a .38 SA 3rd Model Revolver with the shortest factory barrel and target grips and sights.
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Serial 13969 is a 1st Model .38 Single Shot Target, one of 160 made. The condition is not that great but it is one of few.
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I am trying to identify my safety hammerless.I seem to have found one on here a mod 2.my release is in middle of top strap and presses down.
this gun seem to never been fired and the color on trigter is perfect.the face of breach is un marked.I have had it for 20 ys.and the man who owned it carried in hip holster for 35 yrs as security guard. the number is 235**.
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Hello Wildcat,
Yours is a 2nd model 38 Safety Hammerless if it is indeed built on the number 2 frame. It was probably shipped at the end of 1888 or the beginning of 1889. That was a time period when S&W was manufacturing more than a thousand of them a month, and it's hard to pin down a shipping date without a factory letter. They didn't ship them in serial # order. They would make thousands of frames with serial numbers and put them in bins as they made them. When they got an order they would take them out of the bins and the ones on top got used first even though they were a higher serial number. To show you how mixed up it got, 2888X shipped on 9/1889 and 4094X shipped on 2/1889 My data base has a range of 17000 guns from 2421X shipping on 12/1888 to 4140X on 4/1890. I know that last one is correct because it is one of a group of the most researched Safety Hammerless guns in existance, the US Army test revolvers. Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know so I'll cut out now.
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Nice looking gun pilgrim. That is interesing lighting.
I sympathize, MA live free or here.
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Sugarae,
Very nice long barrel squeezer!!


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Thank You,
Someone really knew how to clean a gun. because it appears to be unfired! I traded even for a Marlin/Glenfield model 80 bolt action 22 rifle. He even threw in the holster. Can anyone ID the holster? The only thing stamped on the holster is 38 6.
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Here's mine, old and worn but still shooting perfectly:

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Smith & Wesson Model of 1891 .38 Single Action Revolver and .22 Single Shot Target Barrel in a Two Tone Finish with Matching Numbers.
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My goodness Terry you must have a big room for all those beautiful old Smiths. Very Impressive

Sugarae, your holster appears to be a generic holster made for and sold by the big catalog stores back around the turn of the last century. They commonly only had a caliber marking and barrel length size stamped on the back. Sears, Montgomery Wards and other big catalog stores sold literally hundreds of thousands of them from the late 1880s right up to the second world war. In my opinion they are not scarce, but they are not common either. You can still find them on old guns occasionally like you did, or on tables at gun shows.
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Thanks cflier,

I enjoy having somewhere to post them. Some of my pictures are old and not as good as I would like. Next time I go through the trouble to dig some out for photo time, I will get a photographer friend to help.

All you guys that take the time with your great displays for photos, keep it up because they look impressive! I am sure it is time consuming but much better viewing in a setting. A big thanks to you all!

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This has been going on so long it's hard to remember what I have shown on this thread, but here is one I dug out of the safe deposit box today. I decided to take a fresh picture of it.



32 Safety Hammerless 2nd model factory engraved

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That's an awsome looking .32 you got there ........!
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Very Nice!!! Thanks for the post.
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Here's my $25.00 flea market find. This circa 1895 .38 S&W 3rd Model D.A. did not have the internals when I found it, but I was able to find the parts from other forum members to restore it to shooting condition. Cosmetically...that is another story.
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show guns have their place and shooters have their place. Nice Job.
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My wife is a .32 collector. Here's Carol's clock of hammerless Safeties. Thanks, Joe


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And she has started on Double Actions, also. All .32's.
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Gjamison, I think I would be ecstatic to own such a piece of history, congratulations! Lance (Waistgunner)
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Wow !!!!!!! This thread gets better all the time.

gjamison... what a nice piece of history and condition !!

james56... Carol has some good taste in .32's. I can tell by the clock it is 11:00 since the long barrel is on the 11.

Great to see more and more post of good ole stuff !!

Here is one more Safety Hammerless in .38





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yea the 6" & 4" .32 & .38 is my next quest in these little guy's but have been distracted By my love for the M-27's
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Here is another Safety Hammerless that I have had for quite awhile. It is a 4th model 38, factory engraved. I especially enjoy the old pearl inlayed case that it is sitting in.





I'm not sure that the case is period correct, but it is old.

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Its neat that your wife is a S&W collector. My wife likes to collect the old S&Ws too.

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That 1891 is in wonderful condition. The 6" barrel is on the scarce side. Nice piece.
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Thank's. The front sight is wrong and has been added to it.. I am Hunting for the right one though...Believe it or Not Cabellas had this one and had No Clue of what they really had. I am Into it Real Right..
I have found that Cabelas can be a gold mine at times. They are overpriced a lot, but every once and a while, if you know what you are looking for you can really make out pretty good there.
I took a renickeled S&W M10 (that I had also bought from them) and a used Cimarron Thunderer and swapped them both for a 1903 Colt New Service in .45 Colt it really decent condition. They gave me like $250 for the S&W and $350 for the Cimarron. I ended up walking with the New Service for $5 out of pocket. I was a happy camper!
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Wow, great guns and great pics, folks!! I hope to have a top break pic to contribute someday.

GJamison.... That is just amazing! Thx for sharing, and esp. the closeups.

Cflier.... Great gun and box too. My friend is going to build me a box for my 1917, and I've been looking for ideas. I love the inside, but that looks difficult to build. Do those little covers come off? Does is secure the gun well? It looks so much better than foam.

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I'm not sure what this is....Baby Russian? 38 2nd Model 3 1/4..SSN is 85443. I had info from somewhere that places it about 1887?
I had it refinshed in 1995 by Rebel Refinishers in Lakeland, Fla and shot it in cowboy matches for a couple years. Bore is pristine and it shoots real good at 20 yds. It really turns some heads at a match

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Here are three of mine - .32, .38, and .44
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I'm not sure what this is....Baby Russian? 38 2nd Model 3 1/4..SSN is 85443. I had info from somewhere that places it about 1887?
I had it refinshed in 1995 by Rebel Refinishers in Lakeland, Fla and shot it in cowboy matches for a couple years. Bore is pristine and it shoots real good at 20 yds. It really turns some heads at a match

Nice little gun. What are those bullets? I'm going to take a wild guess...
.405 Winchester?
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Handloaded 45-70. Almost as big as the pistol huh?
Found them in the safe. No longer have the gun. 500gn RN
Just a target load for the old Sharps..36Gn 3031 with a wad of toilet paper...mild.
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One more top break to post here. This Baby Russian is in the original picture box with the wrench.
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Found a nice example of a Perfected Model Top Break.
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Mine's not nearly as nice as most of the guns in this thread, but I love it because my dad gave it to me. The watch came from the same source.

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three of my "babies"
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Top Break .38 DA with the Am EX 375 stampings
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