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Old 05-08-2019, 12:19 AM
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Hi All!
New member here, so forgive me if I doing something wrong. Just picked up a nice Victory today. Smooth trigger, no finish, but bore is bright and shiney. Hoping I can get date the manufacture, serial # SV797998. I'm sure it's fairly late. US Property and GHD markings. Thanks in advance.
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This will work. Welcome to the forum.

You do indeed have a fairly late one, likely shipped around Feb/March 1945 and most probably to the Navy, on account of the property stamp.

The S before the V denotes a new hammer block safety which was installed in Victorys starting around V 769,000 in January.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:40 AM
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Absalom:

I'd say that SV 797988 likely shipped months later than Feb-March, 1945. My analysis would be that it shipped in June-July, 1945, based upon the Victory Model Database.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:37 AM
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Charlie, you’re right. I didn’t take into account the 1945 slowdown. I recall Jack mentioning that the highest military SV shipped to the Navy in August was just over 800xxx.
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Thank you, Guys! Great to know!
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Just purchased a S&W Victory revolver with serial number V341582. Would appreciate any information on the gun including approximate date of manufacturing.
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V341582 would date its shipment at approximately July 1943. Can't say much else without more characteristics - caliber, barrel length, and topstrap stamping or lack thereof. You might learn something from this: http://www.coolgunsite.com/pistols/v...and_wesson.htm
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Old 06-21-2020, 11:47 PM
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Thanks DWalt for the information. The weapon is a S&W Model 10, 4 inch barrel, 38 special. U.S Property, GHD. I checked out your link and did find some good information, appreciate the help.

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Welcome to the Forum.

"The weapon is a S&W Model 10..."

This is incorrect. Model numbers weren't assigned by S&W until 1957 and the revolvers that were model stamped had a short action, as opposed to the long action that is standard on pre WW II and WW II Victory K and N frames.
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Thanks for information, learning all the time. Based on the photos provided is there any other information you can give me on the weapon? Trying to find out as much as I can.
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V 341582 is a standard US military-shipped Victory. All markings are standard. The S indicates those parts needed some service dept. attention before passing inspection. Pretty much all of these went to the Navy at that time, so a history letter would likely show a large Navy yard as initial destination.

Where it went from there is impossible to say. These were carried on missions by Navy and Marine aviators, in shipboard gun lockers, but also by guards at stateside Navy facilities.
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Absalom,
Thanks for the information, between you and DWalt I'm getting a better picture to when it was made and possibly where it may have gone. I splurged and completed a "Letter of Authenticity" request to the S&W Historical Foundation to get info from them as well. I always like to have the history of the weapon with my collection, well worth the fee. I appreciate all the great feedback I'm getting from different collectors on this forum.
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The letter may be a little disappointing as it won't tell you anything beyond exactly when it shipped and to where, which will be more than likely some Navy supply depot. There is a very slim possibility it might be an OSS gun if it shipped to a Navy facility in Rosslyn VA. There will be nothing provided about whether it saw any action or not. Please post the letter here when you receive it.

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Received Smith and Wesson Historical Foundation documents and posted for additional information.
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DeWalt, Posted update with copies of documents received from Smith and Wesson Historical foundation per your request...thanks
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Posted documents from S&W Historical foundation.
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Hello everyone,

Im a new member, and a proud new owner of a S&W Victory model which I just purchased today.

It is a 5" barrel and chambered in 38 S&W. It has a parkerized finish, and smooth wood grips. It has no import marks, nor any foreign proof marks (that I can find). It is marked along the top strap "US Property GHD", and has a serial number of "V424754".

If I have read elsewhere correctly, I believe it to have been sent to England under the Lend Lease program. It appears to be numbers matching, and doesn't appear to have been re-chambered to 38 Special. Unfortunately it is missing the lanyard ring (hopefully I can find an original replacement).

Is there any way of finding out a date of manufacture or shipping on this particular pistol?
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It is a 5" barrel and chambered in 38 S&W. It has a parkerized finish, and smooth wood grips. It has no import marks, nor any foreign proof marks (that I can find). It is marked along the top strap "US Property GHD", and has a serial number of "V424754".

If I have read elsewhere correctly, I believe it to have been sent to England under the Lend Lease program.....
Welcome to the forum.

You have your gun correctly diagnosed in all aspects. The serial places it around October 1943. We have no manufacture dates, but for an exact ship date you‘d need to buy a history letter from the S&W Historical Foundation.

Your gun does indeed look all original, and the absence of any post-war British proofs or importer marks enhances its collector appeal. Original and reproduction swivels can be found on auction sites such as e-bay, Gunbroker, or ordered from Numrich.
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Hey Absalom, do you have any idea what the typical daily production was during this period (mid-late '43)? Or at least the monthly averages?
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Hey Absalom, do you have any idea what the typical daily production was during this period (mid-late '43)? Or at least the monthly averages?
I don‘t know if there are actual records about that, but extrapolating from the numbers produced in the two final years of regular full production, 1943 and 1944, you‘re looking at a number in the 20-thousands per month.
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Thanks! Now I have to kick myself even harder for letting one get away that was <1,000 off the S/N of the one I have. Had been sitting on GB for a while, thought it was overpriced, then one day it disappeared.
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I don‘t know if there are actual records about that, but extrapolating from the numbers produced in the two final years of regular full production, 1943 and 1944, you‘re looking at a number in the 20-thousands per month.
I'd agree with that. My figures indicate that during 1943 and 1944, average monthly production would likely have been very close to 20,000, or +/- 4500 per week.

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