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Old 03-18-2010, 08:33 PM
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I was offered an Australian marked Victory today. Not really my cup of tea and as I didn't think victorys went for that much and I'm trying to save my pennies for N frames, I passed on it.
Now I'm just becoming a little bit curious, as I have seen a couple of Australian marked victorys at higher asking prices, as to whether there is something special about them. It is marked 38 S&W caliber, is this how the British 38/200 was marked?

It is now one gun broker, for $595 and comes with a web belt & holster set. Should I have gone for it?

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The Australian stamped .38-200s I have seen are from the early-mid 1950s and have been arsenal reworked. They should be stamped .38 S & W CTG on the right barrel. They usually look and work great (many appear little-used since then) but are not rare, nor should they be expensive.
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Hi Alan, this one is marked 38 S & W CTG. I know what the 38 S & W CTG is, but I am not familiar with the 38/200. I assume the two are not interchangeable, correct? So, the victorys delivered to Australia and Great Britain were chambered in different calibers?
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Basically, the British 38-200 is the same as the 38 S & W round but with a 200 grain bullet. The British then lowered the bullet weight to 178 grains, but any 38 S&W round with work in a 38-200 gun. The only difference was the bullet weight and perhaps the powder charge. At one time, there was a 38 S&W "Police loading" that had a 200 grain bullet. Today, the 38 S&W rounds that are factory loads are quite low powered (with a 146 grain bullet) so they are safe in older guns. The Victory model, however, is strong enough for a heavier charge and some hand load this round to charges that are similar to light 38 Special loadings.

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scha is spot on with his info on the .38 S&W vs the .38/200. As for your gun itself, unless it's in absolutely pristine original condition, i.e. with out all the arsenal reconditioning and re-import markings I think $595 is a bit high. Others might disagree but that's my opinion. And by the way bringing the gun back into the U.S. without the re-importation marks would be very unlikely if not illegal. The most common mark to be found is on the left side of the frame below the cylinder reading : VEGA SAC CA standing for the Vega Company of Sacramento, CA who did most of the re-importing of these Aussie guns.
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I had one of those,and let it go for three hundred bucks about ten years ago.Really a miniature 1917!
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I think the price is heavily excessive. $300-350 seems more like it, and you can buy the accessories for relatively little.

The Army had greenish OD webbing and the RAF had gray.
Don't know about Aussie webbing; the RAAF may not have used gray like the Brits did. The Air Attache at the Australian Embassy might be able to find out for you.

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Victory's have gone up in price as of late. Like all WWII guns they are very popular. Fewer Aussie Victories were made than the other commonwealth guns. But a large group were reimported by Vega to the US so we see more of them. Aussie web gear was tan and marked with the Dbl D of the Aussie Defence force. A full set of web gear with belt, holster, ammo pouch, and braces would go for $150. Add a Victory to that and ithe set could go up to $500.

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