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2nd Model 44 Appreciation Thread--Show 'em!
Everybody knows the middle child gets no notice as it seems to be with the 2nd Model 44 Hand Ejector. Perhaps it is because both the older and younger pre-war brothers have cute nicknames (Triple Lock and Wolf & Klar respectively). It seems to me this is one of the most underrated and value priced 44's out there.
This 2nd model was my first 44 It letters as shipped on Jan.14, 1924, and went to Emmons-Hawkins Hardware, Huntington, WV. Leather is by forum member 05carbondrz. Knife was my grandfather's in the 1920's.
Let's see yours...
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Al Capone's best brew, a 44spl, an  d coins of the times --- a blast from the 1920s.
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Tight as a tick after about 90 years & all original blue.
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Here is a 5" barrel gun.
 
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I've shown this one before but this is the first time since I found appropriate stocks; 5 inch from 1923. Still tight, shoots fine. Not quite as shiny as the one hsguy has.
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Here's mine; letters to a firm in Peoria, IL. A fellow member has the next serial number, sent to the same firm a little later.
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This is the less beautiful side. (At least it is not electric pencil SSN.0
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My only second model
Unmolested nickel second model. One of the 1917, leftover, frames. Everything numbers correctly including the grips.
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Hi
The 2nd Model shown below is a 2nd model in Cal. 44/40 shipped in 1916
it is the only one that is known to have been made on a special order.
It is in 99% condition all matching and as it was shipped from the factory.
I have owned this revolver since 2007. It was purchased with 6 other rare guns from a well known collector.
The last time this gun was on sold on auction was about 12 years ago, at that time it was sold for the highest price that was payed for a S & W.
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Pardon the lack of photos, but...
I found my Second Model for sale by Lyle Larkworthy in Texas, in 2006. Turned out it has a Utah connection. It's blue, six inch barrel, fixed sights, original walnut checkered service stocks with large silver medallions Probably 80-85% blue left. Rollmarked on the back strap is "UTAH HIGHWAY PATROL 8". S/N 36483, it was shipped out here in January, 1932. The UHP issued them until they converted to the S&W .357 Registered Magnum a few years later.
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One of my favorite S&W's, this .44 Target 2nd Model remains in near new condition despite it's 86 years of age.
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I found my Second Model for sale by Lyle Larkworthy in Texas, in 2006. Turned out it has a Utah connection. It's blue, six inch barrel, fixed sights, original walnut checkered service stocks with large silver medallions Probably 80-85% blue left. Rollmarked on the back strap is "UTAH HIGHWAY PATROL 8". S/N 36483, it was shipped out here in January, 1932. The UHP issued them until they converted to the S&W .357 Registered Magnum a few years later.
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A factory nickel 2nd model 44
A 44-40 shipped in 1929
Full side view of 44-40
A 44 special with 5 inch barrel
A second model with serial 60771 shipped in 1940 one of the highest serial number known.
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Letters to 1935.
Letters to 1923
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Hi
Here is my 5 inch with a target front sight this was a special order. These models are called half Target and all are made on special order.
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Here's one of several that I own; a Target with checkered trigger, frontstrap and backstrap.
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.........and, a few others. .44-40 at left, shipped to Australia in 1929.
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An afterthought; maybe this photo is of interest.
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Howdy
I have two.
This one shipped in February of 1921.
This one is a bit more interesting.
Flash back a bunch of years ago. I was pretty new to collecting N frame Smiths. I couldn't afford a Triple Lock, so I thought the next best thing would be a 44 HE 2nd Model.
One day I found this one at a show. It was marked as a 44 HE 2nd Model. So I bought it.
The dealer told me this one had gone to Canada, and showed me the Canadian Broad Arrow stamped on the frame.
But the more I thought about it, something was not quite right. The barrel was marked for 44 Special.
But there was no corresponding SN on the underside of the barrel, just this diamond mark.
And there was no SN stamped on the rim of the cylinder, just this 25 under the extractor, with the same 25 on the underside of the extractor star.
So I finally sent a request for a letter to Roy along with a whole bunch of photos. Turns out it is actually a 455 Mark II Hand Ejector. Turns out since the 455 cartridge was not very popular here, a bunch of these were converted to 44 Special when they showed up back in the US.
I wasn't really surprised, I had figured out as much. And I wasn't really disappointed either. Although when I told the dealer, he did not have any comment to make. He probably thought I was going to demand my money back.
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Good topic!
Does anyone KNOW the exact caliber of Sasha Siemel's S&W .44 (s)? A photo shows what looks like a holster for a 6.5-inch barrel.
He also had a short barreled Winchester M-92 .44-40 and may have gotten his sixgun in that caliber. Remember, he was in Brazil and the majority of .44-40 S&W's did go to S. America.
His books just referred to S&W .44's. No model or exact .44 ctg. I am, of course, referring to his early guns, not to the M-29 sent to him in the 1950's.
He did spear many jaguars, but also shot some. And his S&W's were also for personal defense against men, in a frontier area where the law rode in your holster. And he no doubt was concerned with the many venomous snakes, etc.
If you haven't read his books, like Tigrero!, do. Fascinating! Born in Latvia or Estonia, he spoke not just Brazilian Portuguese fluently; he was also fluent in English and made lecture tours here as well as authoring books. He met his much younger wife at a lecture in PA.
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Here's one. A cherry 6.5" 2nd Model .44HE that came from Lee a few years ago. Serial #57764 shipped 12/17/39 to Von Lengerke & Antoine Co., Chicago. Dig those beautiful prewar magnas!
And another, serial #23403 shipped 5/4/25 to Shapleigh Hardware Co., St. Louis, MO. This one belonged to Detective Sergeant Gay E. Dusenberry, Peoria, IL. "Dusey" had an impressive career busting auto-theft gangs throughout the 1930's, and was involved in a shoot-out at Larson's Barbershop on November 13, 1933. The engraving itself is clearly "pawnshop" quality. Not great, but not terrible either. The right sideplate is engraved with the Masonic "G" with compass and square, and Odd Fellows "F L T" linked chain symbol (Friendship, Love, Truth). A period-correct trigger has since been installed...and it works great.
The ceremonial badge was presented to Sgt. Dusenberry by the Chief of Police on Christmas Day 1933.
Here we see Peoria County Chief Deputy Sheriff Dusenberry, with .44 holstered, escorting a guest of the county sometime in the mid 1940's.
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Peoria, IL must have been a fertile field for Second Models; mine and the next serial number that has been on the forum were shipped to Peoria. Maybe Dusey's exploits inspired others.
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I just joined the 2nd Model HE group! I saw this .44 Special 2nd in the marketplace and it was just what I was looking for, a nice condition shooter. It is the same revolver that is in post 3 of this thread. It arrived today and is a great pistol. I am looking forward to taking it to the range and to carrying it out on the hunt lease!
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Glashaus, welcome to the 2nd Model 44 fan club. Let's hear a range report.
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Is that FMJ .44 Special ammo? Didn't realize they made it.
Many in the old days thought it was good for defense against large animals. Wonder if that'd penetrate a crocodile. Some probably carried M-1917 .45's to get a powerful handgun with jacketed bullets.
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I can't tell if it is metal jacketed or just copper washed, but the cropped-out box seems to say "...L PATCH." I'm guessing jacketed from that. I have never seen anything but round nose lead from pre-1975. I have read about full wadcutter loads, Skeeter Skelton mentioned them but I can't remember if he ever shot any.
Maybe we can persuade BRush to post a photo or two of the ammo box.
Nice photos of a nice sixgun there, BRush!
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I can't tell if it is metal jacketed or just copper washed, but the cropped-out box seems to say "...L PATCH." I'm guessing jacketed from that. I have never seen anything but round nose lead from pre-1975. I have read about full wadcutter loads, Skeeter Skelton mentioned them but I can't remember if he ever shot any.
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I think it does say Full Patch. Means jacketed. Never saw it mentioned by Keith, Skelton, other .44 Special fans.
Most interesting. John Taylor mentioned liking jacketed bullets in case a lion had him down and he could use a revolver.
A HS chum's dad had a prewar Colt .38 Super; bought it when he was concerned about bears. Thought the high velocity FMJ would penetrate to vital organs.
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I can't tell if it is metal jacketed or just copper washed, but the cropped-out box seems to say "...L PATCH." I'm guessing jacketed from that. I have never seen anything but round nose lead from pre-1975. I have read about full wadcutter loads, Skeeter Skelton mentioned them but I can't remember if he ever shot any.
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I think it does say Full Patch. Means jacketed. Never saw it mentioned by Keith, Skelton, other .44 Special fans.
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This is from Stoeger's "Arms, Ammunition and Shooting Accessories" Catalog no. 18 (1932 ?):
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Note that four styles of bullets are offered in the various .44 cartridges- Lead, MP, SP and MC. The manufacturers are not given.
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Here's the only .44 HE 2nd I have. It shipped in July 1924.
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Currently my only 2nd Model H.E. 44 special. It was sent back to the factory twice in one year, once for later model target sight installation and again for a refinish.
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Holy thread resurrection Batman!
As long as you keep asking!
My one and only. Jan 1924
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My first one, or any 44 special for that matter. I can easily see what the appeal is man is it accurate!
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My only 2nd model. Came with the cokes.
44 hand ejector.jpg
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Sure! I'll Share! (again)
Oh, how I'd like to find another... and, another... and, another!
You members who've been "at it" for a while have impressive collections.
Again, I have just the one .44 HE, 2nd Model w/5" bbl. 
(The bluing is actually much deeper than these outdoor pictures reveal, btw.)
The shipping invoice (bottom picture) shows the cost in 1927 as $21.90, 2nd from the last item listed.
-Bill
SN 27212 Shipped March, 1927
-Shown with Keith Brown Service Stocks
One More Look Showing Truer Colors
-On an Overcast Day
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2nd model hand ejector target shipped February 6, 1927.
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