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Old 04-30-2012, 10:01 AM
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When SG688 brought this over last Friday, in the dim light of our buddy's bar room, I got really excited at the s/n. I think Craig is probably right, it is most likely a "91" (pretty darn low) instead of an "01". The numbers are separated just enough to make one suspicious. I think this one deserves a shot at rehabilitation. All the parts are there, just needs a little clean & buff and maybe a little tweaking.

If you decide to tear it down, I have a whole series of pictures of the insides. This model has some distinct differences from the later models.

My "much younger" 1899 1st Model, #8636, shipped Jan 1901.


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here is mine, it is a great shooter. i was told it was made 1907 sel. no. 30210 would 1907 be the correct date?

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The Model of 1899 is definately a different bird from the other seven variants of the 32-20 flock. One of the most significant parts that was much simplified in subsequent models was the cylinder stop. The 1899 used a stop consisting of multiple parts. If you decide to fully disassemble one of these, take good photos or make a drawing of how the parts fit together.
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I rescued 335xx from a local pawn shop. I believe she is a 2nd change made in 1907. She has some surface wear and rust but the bore is smooth and the cylinder is tight. The stocks are original and almost perfect. I look forward to cleaning and shooting this little gem. I will probably give this pistol to my Dad.
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Here's one we had at the last OGCA meeeting, serial #101602......




its the 1905 HE ,4th model in .32-20..................
and hardly anyone even looked at it??
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Here is a 1905,4th change, sn# 983XX shipped 4/1921.

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Picked this up over the weekend.


Yea, I know, bad nickel job,hammer & trigger... Bore is about 60% & some pitting, 5". Timeing is on, grips are numbered, but not to this revolver,insides were dry as a bone, cleaned it up, some rust & gunk, but the price was right. $159.50 OTD. My first 32-20.
S/N 135064, thinking around late 20's or early 30's.

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OK - I put this in the SWCA Forum earlier, but thought I would add one that is not so fine. I picked up a shooter for under $200 and it was way too ugly to take to the range, so I rust blued it and it cleaned up fine. Gun was manufactured in 1917 and looked like it laid on a barn beam for many years. It was a round butt and since I had some square butt grips, I added these to the gun. Feels much better in the hand.

I have been testing some loads and took my M&P to the range yesterday. I put a cylinder full and shot it through my chronograph and to my surprise, it shot at 350 fps?? Ejected the brass and noticed they were really ballooned out at the mouth. Took a minute, but I found the problem and I will let the members guess what I did.

Anyway, a great shooter and always brings comments at the range. Most people there have never seen a 32-20 M&P.

Pictures are before (pitting and all) and after. Also, with the square butt added.
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"Remove the stocks. (For revolvers with wooden stocks; I have no idea how to handle pearls, other than applying Renaissance Wax.)

Wash the wood stocks quickly under warm running water, using Murphy's Oil Soap. Rinse. Dry. Liberally apply Pledge Rejuvenating Oil. Dry (for several hours to one day). Apply one to three coats of Renaissance Wax with a microfiber cloth (or old t-shirt). Apply sparingly. You can get it into checkering with a toothbrush (be gentle on the wood) or the fluffy side of the microfiber cloth. Let dry. Rub off and polish with clean cloth. Many wood care products will yield similar results."

Please be aware that the older S&W revolvers were numbered in PENCIL on the back of the grips. This method of cleaning would probably remove that serial number.
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OK - I put this in the SWCA Forum earlier, but thought I would add one that is not so fine. I picked up a shooter for under $200 and it was way too ugly to take to the range, so I rust blued it and it cleaned up fine. Gun was manufactured in 1917 and looked like it laid on a barn beam for many years. It was a round butt and since I had some square butt grips, I added these to the gun. Feels much better in the hand.

I have been testing some loads and took my M&P to the range yesterday. I put a cylinder full and shot it through my chronograph and to my surprise, it shot at 350 fps?? Ejected the brass and noticed they were really ballooned out at the mouth. Took a minute, but I found the problem and I will let the members guess what I did.

Anyway, a great shooter and always brings comments at the range. Most people there have never seen a 32-20 M&P.

Pictures are before (pitting and all) and after. Also, with the square butt added.
25-20s instead of 32-20s.

Very nice worrk, a big improvement. Did you make a little wood filler for the square grips? The Marbles Safety Axe is a nice same vintage touch
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Picked this up over the weekend.
Yea, I know, bad nickel job,hammer & trigger... Bore is about 60% & some pitting, 5". Timeing is on, grips are numbered, but not to this revolver,insides were dry as a bone, cleaned it up, some rust & gunk, but the price was right. $159.50 OTD. My first 32-20.
S/N 135064, thinking around late 20's or early 30's.
Good buy and nice gun. De-nickel the hammer and trigger, and polish up the nickel with some Mothers Mag Wheel polish. You can't hurt it and she'll look good.
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Hondo44 - not 25-20 - I was using 32-20 ammo. Clue: I have a matching 6" M&P that is in 38 Special.

Walnut filler front and back. A little Gorilla Glue on the back of one grip and I was all set. I did the same thing to my 38 Special.
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Hey guys. A friend of mine pointed me to this thread. I inherited my grandfather's old .32-20 and I was hoping you guys could give a ballpark estimate of when it was made.

also, whether or not the gun can (or should) be cleaned up and polished back to it's original luster? One side is clean with typical scratching but the other side is corroded and the inside (cotton or wool) lining of the bag it's been stored in for who knows how long is green from the corrosion.
Pearls are easy to clean up. Soap and water. But they get fine surface scratches and maybe a few nicks. Go over them with 2000 grit wet or dry paper wrapped in a hard rubber eraser until the surface is uniform. Avoid the edges. Them buff with a soft cotton wheel and white rough but again avoid the edges or they will be too small to fit the grip frame and get rounded.

They'll look like brand new! Just don't drop them, very brittle and break easy on impact. Don't over tighten the screw.
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25-20s instead of 32-20s.

Very nice worrk, a big improvement. Did you make a little wood filler for the square grips? The Marbles Safety Axe is a nice same vintage touch
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Hondo44 - not 25-20. Clue: I have a matching 6" M&P that is in 38 Special.

Walnut filler front and back. A little Gorilla Glue on the back of one grip and I was all set. I did the same thing to my 38 Special.
I think I got your guns mxied up, they're both M&Ps LOL. I thought you were chroning the 32-20. If you were chroning the 38 Spl then you got the 32-20s in the 38.

The grips turned out very nice and still look period correct!
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This is how that poor bore nickeled did today.


This was at 7 yds / 21'. still not bad for a bore that is rough & pited some.
Factory loads of 115 gr for revolvers.

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I inherited my .32-20 from my dad, he bought it from a guy he worked with back in the '70s. He said it had belonged to his father, who had acquired it in the '20s.
I think he paid him $25 or $50 for it.
I'm not sure of the mfg date, has to be an earlier gun, since the SN is 35xxx, and the last date stamped on the barrel is '01.





The barrel is 6 3/8" from the forcing cone to the muzzle, don't know if that was the standard length or not.
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"It does, however shoot very well, when I want to spend a dollar a shot that is..... "

Just another reason I hand load.....
Dies & bullets coming soon for mine.
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"It does, however shoot very well, when I want to spend a dollar a shot that is..... "

Another reason I hand load. Dies & bullets on order for this round.
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Just another reason I hand load.....
Dies & bullets coming soon for mine.

Amen and amen! If you ain't reloading, then you ain't getting the most enjoyment out of your gun (and probably not the most accuracy, either! )

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"The barrel is 6 3/8" from the forcing cone to the muzzle, don't know if that was the standard length or not."

It would have been sold as a 6 1/2" barrel length. It is not unusual for the actual barrel to vary up to a 1/4".
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I have a .32-20 hand ejector #883xx. It's in realy nice condition, will post a pic soon. can anyone give me a rough time frame on this pistol?
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It's the last model made; mod 1905 -4th Change, made between 1915 and 1940. Yours was likely built in the late teens.
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I just joined the club. Bagged this 1905 3rd Change (c. 1910) on Gunbroker and it arrived today. Looks a bit odd to me with that long 6.5" barrel and round butt frame but there you go. Obviously been refinished but not a bad job save the blued hammer and trigger. Of course the stocks are from the 1980s but I will look around for some early post-war Magnas that won't look quite so out of place. I have no interest in the original service style stocks. Too uncomfortable.

Function seems good so I think I did OK for $239. I am a little concerned about the cylinder not being tempered but I am told reasonable loads should be fine.


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Not a S&W, but a picture of my latest .32-20 acquisition a Colt Official Police from 1932. In near-mint condition, and the picture does not do its condition justice. Only the faintest trace of a turn line, and slight muzzle wear. I will be shooting it for the first time tomorrow.

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I was fortunate enough to have this wonderful pistol given to me by my uncle. I know it is a 32. I bears the markings 32 Winchester ctg on the barrel. It has the serial number 260xx. If anyone can give me some additional information about it it would be greatly appreciated.
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jerjiggy,

Your revolver was shipped from the factory in the 1906-1909 time period. It looks to be in really good shape. Those hard rubber grips tended to get chipped over the years. The color casehardening on the hammer and trigger look good too.

I have one from that era too and it is a good shooter. Not as purdy though. Look for .32-20 cartridges for shooting.

Great family heirloom!!
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Am a little late to the party but allow me to add my one-and-only 32-20 Hand Ejector . . . a 1905-4th that shipped in June 1929. With s/n 141399 it’s not in the running for highest serial number . . . but it is in within 3,285 of the highest

I’m a fan of the 5” barrel length and – with my aging eyesight - prefer the easier to see square notch 1/8” sight width.








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One more for the show...notice the front sight.

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My old (new to me) one with Wondersight.



S/N ( 6953 ) dates it to 1902 - 1903.
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I thought I would post a couple of additional pictures for N7BLW. Thanks again for all of your great info.
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Here is my Hand Ejector 32/20. Serial Number is # 123737
I have been shooting it with my reloads quite regularly.
A mild dose of Trailboss and Missouri Bullets cast 115 grains.
She shoots great.
I also have a Browning Model 53, a Ruger Buckeye and my real catch, a
Model 15 with a Hamilton Bowen converted cylinder from a Model 17 and a
16-4 barrel. It may be a Franken gun, but it is my Franken gun !!!
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Thanks for the pix. I've added them to the others in my database. The piece looks to be a 5 inch gun. Is that correct?
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You all are probably sick of seeing this one, but it belongs here. The serial number is 8037 and it letters to March, 1904.
The barrel is 5". The stocks are later - I have some hard rubber stocks for it, but these look too good to take off!
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N7BLW... it is a 5 in gun
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Here's one that went back to the factory in 1944 for a barrel change. Don't know the story on the grips, they were on it when purchased. Waiting on letter.



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Here's a picture of 32/20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 Forth Change 5" Barrel Target shipped to Piper & Taft Inc., Seattle, Washington on June 20, 1919. It's 80994 serial number is just shy of the heat treated cylinders that started at 81287.

Two personal observations:

1. With the exception of this one, the other 32/20s I've run across looked like they had been rode hard and put away wet. (Unlike many posted here.)

2. I've never seen another 32/20 Target upfront and personnel. Pictures, yes - guns, no.

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I just bough an old S&W .32 serial is 9xxxxx. Any idea on the age of this gun? Also, .32 auto seems to fit. Is it ok to use it on that gun? 32 long is really scarce in my area.
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Welcome to the Forum, algrennathan.

You might want to start a new thread, as your revolver is a .32 Long, not a .32-20.

Plus, if you can provide pictures, that would be a big help in the ID.
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Old cut down 32-20

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I have a Model 1905 with serial #548xx. My father passed this gun on to me back in around 1985 - don't recall where he got it. I ended up with the S&W 32-20 and his Marlin model 1893 30/30. I have been able to trace the mfg date on the Marlin Lever Action via its serial number back to 1897. I've seen conflicting data on the Internet on when my S&W 32-20 was produced- anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks.
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grips are numbered, but not to this revolver
I would guess not, since they are about 3 decades newer than the gun.
That said, I like the looks of this nickel plated rascal. And the '50s diamond stocks look fine on it.
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I have a Model 1905 with serial #548xx.
I've seen conflicting data on the Internet on when my S&W 32-20 was produced- anyone care to enlighten me?
This should be a third change revolver and it probably shipped c. 1912. The stocks should have the gold recessed medallion.

How about posting a photo or two?
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Here's a picture of 32/20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 Forth Change 5" Barrel Target shipped to Piper & Taft Inc., Seattle, Washington on June 20, 1919.
That's a dandy, S&W HE!
You can see my 5" barrel Target model at Post #187 of this thread. It doesn't retain as much blue as yours and it is wearing incorrect stocks. But I love it just the same.
It shipped to Philip Bekeart in San Francisco on March 15, 1904.
Thanks for showing us yours.
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Added: I see you "liked" my photo, so I guess you've already looked at it. Sorry!
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If I did this right , here is my little 32-20 any information on it is appreciated. And this is a great thread.




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First, welcome to the S&W Forum. Glad to have you aboard and I'm also happy to see your first post be about a .32-20 Hand Ejector. I love these guns!

If I'm reading the serial number correctly (28269) this should be a Model of 1905 with the first engineering changes and it should date from about 1908.

That being the case, the stocks probably are not original. The recessed gold medallion stocks did not start shipping until about 1911. And looking at the photo of the butt, they do not seem to fit quite correctly. Nonetheless, they are quite nice looking and there is nothing wrong with keeping them on this revolver.

The barrel length looks to me to be 4", which was one of the options at the time your revolver was assembled.

The barrel legend on this revolver should say 32 Winchester CTG. It should appear on the left side and the right side is probably blank. It should have patent dates on the top.

The blue looks to be in pretty decent shape, although I think I see some patina on the back strap - which is not unusual on these older HE revolvers.

You can check for matching serial numbers in five places (there would be a sixth, if the stocks were original).
1. Bottom of the grip frame (you showed us this one).
2. Rear face of the cylinder.
3. Barrel flat (on the bottom of the barrel above where the extractor rod sits when the cylinder is closed).
4. Reverse side of the extractor star (towards the cylinder).
5. Back edge of the yoke arm (very difficult to see - you have to shine a light on it from an oblique angle and look through one of the charge holes).

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Thanks for the information. found all the serial numbers and they all match.


"The barrel legend on this revolver should say 32 Winchester CTG. It should appear on the left side and the right side is probably blank. It should have patent dates on the top."

Right side has patent dates and the top is blank.

I've had this pistol since 1989 when my father passed. He said he got it from his uncle who was a policeman in south GA. I've only shot it a handful of times over the past twenty years and enjoyed shooting it but could not find cartridges for it until just recently.

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