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Serial number S 98839 , about 1953-54. The frame , barrel, and cylinder all number the same. I`m reasonably sure the target hammer was added later and I know for sure that Keith Brown did not install these grips in 1953. The engraving job was done by Master engraver Neil Hartliep ,in the Oakleaf pattern. I am hoping the barrel length is original but also know that many were cut down. I have already filled out the Roy Jinks request form just so I will know for sure. Either way, I will cherish this one for a long time. I would also like to thank Dick Hilt, a good friend and forum member for letting me add this to my collection.

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That is beautiful.
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I need your target grips. very nice.
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OH MY MY !!! That is some serious gun porn. Who is responsible for that lady's dress up ?

I like it . A LOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Man is that gorgeous. What a work of art.
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Can I say damn here? Damn.
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Very nice gun. If those grips are KB's they could have been added later in the guns life. Larry
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Sure is a beaut!
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Very tasteful engraving, ... and the grips are killer! Thanks for sharing this.

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Can I say damn here? Damn.
I was thinking "Holy Cow!" but "Damn!" will certainly do. That is really something. Beautiful sixgun you have there.

Just as a matter of curiosity, does the engraving appear to be cut for magnas? Not trying to take a thing away from your combination, but I always find it interesting how engravers "work around" the stocks.

Again, that thing is a true work of art. Congratulations.
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hi nice 44
I have one engraved by Neil Hartliep it is a pre model 24 with a 5 inch barrel. shipped in 1955. The picture I have of it is not very good. when I get a chance I will get some better pictures.
I have only seen about 6 S&W engraved by Mr. Hartliep. Most of his engraving was done on High Quality Shot Guns.
I was able to meet his Brother a few years back and learn some information about Neil, his brother was also a Engraver he lived in Idaho.
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Outstanding for sure!

I like the style.


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Very nice deep relief engraving and nice S&W prop to boot.
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Wow. That is very nice.

But I bet it letters as a 6.5" gun. I have a cut down 1950 and yours has the same look.
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Awesome engraving and phenominal grips
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I would side with the guys saying the stocks were added later, perhaps when the engraving was done. I also think the barrel was cut down because of the markings being off center.

None of that takes away from overall quality or appearance of the gun. For those liking showy guns that is indeed a dandy!

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Altogether excruciatingly outstanding. WOW!

Toppers will be few!

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Charlie,
Great gun! Glad you got it. I too have a Neil Hartliep engraved gun. As Jim mentioned, Neil mainly engraved rifles and shotguns and not pistols by themselves. If he was doing a long gun for you he would do a pistol also.

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Them dinged up guns sure are pretty.
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Thanks for all the replies. I removed the grips and found out that the engraving does extend under the target stocks and would be perfect for Diamond Magnas. The grips are definately Keith Brown. I was only joking about Keith putting them on in 53. I appreciate all the input about engraver, Neil Hartliep. After a google search, there are a few hits ,but not too many. I`m glad to see that some of you have some of his work.
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Charlie,
Neil authored the NRA's manual on engraving. You can find one on Ebay if you watch closely!
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I just opened the factory letter from Roy and was pleasently surprised. My newly aquired 4" was shipped that way in January 27, 1955 To H.H. Harris Co. in Chicago. After a hard day of roofing, That letter made my day. Thanks Roy

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I rather thought that was an original barrel, but I wasn't going to say anything with far smarter guys saying it might be cut. I've noticed the short-barrel N-Frames have the barrel stampings all the way back to the edge of the curve where the tapered barrel curves from the frame down to it's thinner diameter. Seems like a barrel has to be about 4-5" or longer for this not to be the case.

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I really can't add anything that hasn't already been expressed, but that is an impressive engraving. I certainly like the style and combined with the model, caliber and barrel length it adds up to one very desireable handgun. I know you're going to enjoy being that great gun's caregiver for a spell.
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Fabulous revolver!
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Wonderful works of art . There are some very fine guns in this post.Well done gents!
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Holey moley! That one is amazing.
Even the screw heads are perfect.
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Hi
lets bring this to the top. Here is one more of Neils Engraving on a Revolver.
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My favorite gun in my favorite caliber with my favorite barrel length. Then the engraving and the stocks. My oh my! Took my breath away.
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Both those engraved .44's are awesome. I drooled all over my keyboard.
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