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I need some help identifying the model and age of a Smith and Wesson revolver.

Please look at the photos below. ( I can take more photos if needed )

Is this a pre model 10 ? There is no model number on the indie of the frame ( see photo ) just the number 5 and a faint 7. The serial number on the bottom of the barrel matches the serial number on the butt.

Thanks in advance for any help/ info you guys can provide.

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:38 PM
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Military & Police model (pre Model 10), shipped late 1947.
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Agree with Goony.
BTW, you need to switch the flat head screw under the S&W logo with the round head one under the right grip. They've been swapped. HTH
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This is what is called a "transitional model" as it is made up from parts left over from the pre-war guns but was assembled and sold after the war.

I'm no expert but it looks refinished to me. The hammer and trigger appear to be blued and these should case-colored. When these parts have been refinished it's a good indicator that the whole gun is refinished.

This is still a very cool model.
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Not picking on your M&P as I like it, but a couple things pop out at me.
The fit of the side plate and the kind of rough appearance of the cylinder makes me believe the gun has been refinished.
I can't quite tell, but the trigger and hammer appear to have the same finish as the rest of the gun when they should be case hardened.
The bottom side plate screw has a flat head when it should be rounded. If you remove the grips, maybe the proper screw is there and you can swap the two out.
This is a "transition" model that were still using the long action hammer which would be soon be replaced by the short action "speed hammer".
Many shooters prefer the long action.

If everything I wrote is true, the gun is not a "collector piece" but if it functions reliably I think it would be a way cool carry piece.

Hope this helps.
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Agree with Goony.
BTW, you need to switch the flat head screw under the S&W logo with the round head one under the right grip. They've been swapped. HTH
In this era, the screw under the grip can be domed like the others, with a dimple in the stock to accomodate that configuration. The flathead screw may be an incorrect replacement - in any event, diamondback68 is right, it should be remediated.
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I didn't look that closely at first, but I agree with firestat and SaxonPig - it looks refinished. Wonder if the stocks are matching, not that it matters too much with this gun if it is in fact reblued
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Thank you ! All you guy have been a huge help. I appreciate it very much.

I think that the call on the re-blue is correct. There is some light pitting on the gun that is blue, rather than rust or metal colored, which seems to also indicated re-fishing.

I will take the grips off and see if the proper screw is there.

Again, Thank you all very much

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While you have the stocks off, look to see what serial number is stamped on the inside surface of the right panel. Those are rounded magnas, a style called PC grips. The common interpretation is that PC stands for Plain Clothes, because LEOs who worked in street clothes could carry short-barrel revolvers under a jacket without printing so obviously. But there's another explanation for the initials that I don't remember right now.

PC stocks first came along in the early to mid-1950s, I believe, so the ones on that gun probably won't number to the frame.
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PC stocks first came along in the early to mid-1950s, I believe, so the ones on that gun probably won't number to the frame.
Good point, another detail I missed. They certainly weren't any supplied on a gun this early.
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The edges of the sideplate have been rounded over, in several
places. That is indicative of a refinish.

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Can you please post some more pictures? For some reason they are not showing up for me. From the description I have an identical model but the pics would help.

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