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V501248 would indicate that it probably shipped in Jan or Feb 1944. The lack of a topstrap stamping suggests it was a DSC revolver, not one which went to the U. S. military. Pate says that the W stamping on the butt MAY mean that it was sent to the Western Electric Co.
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This Victory was purchased at Elliott's Police Supply in Los Angeles on 7 Nov 1960, sold as a 'New' S&W Model 10, with a full S&W Warranty (I have the card). When it was delivered it was in new in box condition (i have the box), it didn't even appear to have ever been fired.

Back then Police Officers in Los Angeles purchased and paid for their own weapons, but the weapons had to meet certain specifications. One was that all revolvers had to pass the 'drop test.' In other words, they had to have a functioning hammer block. Since this era Victory did not have a hammer block it needed to be retro fitted before it could be used on duty. (By 1971 all privately owned revolvers used on duty by LAPD officers had to be modified for double action only fire). All modified revolvers are marked by the Department Armorer so that the revolvers can be checked during inspections or after shootings.

This is where the speculation begins. I think that this Victory (and probably thousands more) that were unissued (or lightly used) were returned to S&W to be retro fitted with the hammer block so that they could be resold. I'm not alone in thinking the the 'W' may in fact be a 'M' for 'modified.' You might have noticed that on the right side of the grip there is what appears to be an 'aftermarket' S. The S does not appear as part of the serial number as it would have on a Victory that was delivered from the factory with the hammer block installed.

Although this may never have been an OSS issued Victory, I do know that it was only carried on duty for about three and a half years. During that period it was fired less then 400 times. About 50 each during five semi annual qualifications, and once more that we won't talk about.

This whole scenario may also explain why we see so many war era Victory revolvers fitted with 1950's era grips. That's what this Victory was supplied with for the S&W factory.

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I submitted the history of this Victory (V501248, as i know it), but being new and having not read all the rules as I should have, it was blocked until approved by the moderator. I think it was to long. Sorry.

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This is the short version of what I know about my Victory V501248). It was purchased at Elliott's Police Supply in Los Angeles on 7 Nov 1960, sold as a 'New' S&W Model 10, with a full S&W Warranty, and carried on duty for about three and a half years. It came with the grips in the photo and without a lanyard ring.

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This is the short version of what I know about my Victory V501248). It was purchased at Elliott's Police Supply in Los Angeles on 7 Nov 1960, sold as a 'New' S&W Model 10, with a full S&W Warranty, and carried on duty for about three and a half years. It came with the grips in the photo and without a lanyard ring.
I'm not sure how generous S&W was with "warranty" work in the old days, but that was definitely not new, but a used Victory with post-war magna stocks attached later. If a warranty repair issue had arisen and Elliott's sold it as you describe, they'd likely have had to eat the cost.
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I'm not sure how generous S&W was with "warranty" work in the old days, but that was definitely not new, but a used Victory with post-war magna stocks attached later. If a warranty repair issue had arisen and Elliott's sold it as you describe, they'd likely have had to eat the cost.
I have the original S&W warranty card (a 1955 form), box, and paper work. I'll post a photo of it later. Based on what I was told, and the excellent condition of the Victory now, it probably appeared as if it were new, even if it wasn't. My friend is relying on a 66 year old memory, but he's still sharp as a tack. I talked to him about it last Thursday and he said that it was sold as new and that the store had a number of 'the same Model 10s' to choose from. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

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Here's the S&W warranty card and brochures that came with Victory V501248. It came in a standard Model 10 S&W blue box without a serial number printed with the description.

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Here's the S&W warranty card and brochures that came with Victory V501248. It came in a standard Model 10 S&W blue box without a serial number printed with the description.

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Yeah, that's not the right box or documents for a Victory. Model numbers weren't around then. And in your picture of the revolver, those aren't Victory stocks . . .
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As Muss says, neither the box nor the papers are in any way related to the Victory model you showed. The instructions are for a regular post-1958/59 Model 10, as appears to be the box. They met up sometime before the sale in 1960; if Elliott's sold this as new and under warranty, they cheated.
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As Muss says, neither the box nor the papers are in any way related to the Victory model you showed. The instructions are for a regular post-1958/59 Model 10, as appears to be the box. They met up sometime before the sale in 1960; if Elliott's sold this as new and under warranty, they cheated.
Is there such a thing as a Victory box?
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Is there such a thing as a Victory box?
Good question. Most likely a plain brown kraft box, similar to the Commando boxes.

There is the famous photo, also reprinted in Pate, of BSR Victorys being unpacked in Britain which appears to show such packaging.

Interestingly, while there are quite a few newish unissued Commandos in original boxes around (as well as plenty of new "replica" boxes, a.k.a. fakes), I have never laid eyes on a documented original US Victory box. But there are others here with a lot longer exposure than I've had, so maybe someone has a picture of one.
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Yeah, that's not the right box or documents for a Victory. Model numbers weren't around then. And in your picture of the revolver, those aren't Victory stocks . . .
Can't argue with you about that. I think the original owner may be confused about the state of the gun when it was sold. New vs like new. Although he's pretty adamant that he never owned a 'Model 10' other than the Victory that he thinks was sold to him as a Model 10. I think it's time to order a letter from S&W to pin down when and to whom it was shipped to. Thanks for the input.
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As Muss says, neither the box nor the papers are in any way related to the Victory model you showed. The instructions are for a regular post-1958/59 Model 10, as appears to be the box. They met up sometime before the sale in 1960; if Elliott's sold this as new and under warranty, they cheated.
I never dealt with Elliott's and I don't mean to infer that they did anything unethical. All the information comes from a guy that I've know for 40 years who has always been reliable. Because the basis of the information about the gun is anecdotal I think the only solution is to order a letter from S&W and see where it leads. Thanks for the input.
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I never dealt with Elliott's and I don't mean to infer that they did anything unethical. All the information comes from a guy that I've know for 40 years who has always been reliable. Because the basis of the information about the gun is anecdotal I think the only solution is to order a letter from S&W and see where it leads. Thanks for the input.
Please report back when you get the letter.
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Yes, there was indeed a distinctive box within which the Victory Model was shipped. It was a single piece of folded, corrugated cardboard taped close with the serial number penciled on the bottom. The USGI guns had the Ordnance Department Escutcheon stamped in red ink on the box as well.

I don't have handy any pics of the two boxes in my collection but do have in my archives the image posted below of an authentic Victory box. I believe this one was probably for a DSC gun. I don't recall where I got this image or I would offer the proper credit for it here.

The Colt Commando boxes were 2 piece boxes of a different construction.

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Hello, I'm new to the forum and picked up a Victory recently to add to the database. I found it local but didn't pick it up initially due to having reservations about it being an actual Victory. Here's the details:

Finish is dull but definitely not blue.
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Serial #: V 227198
Serial number match on grips, cylinder, extractor star, barrel flat

Here's why I had issues at first. The butt and top strap are lacking markings. But both places seem too have been modified due to possible machine scratches. The left top strap has light rust and the right does not. Mechanically, the gun is outstanding and the bore is clean. After following this thread, I saw some around this number I would guess puts it around Jan-Feb 1943. I'm not looking at making anything off it and it would probably just get shot here and there. I was looking at getting the factory letter for it just to see what additional info I can get on it. Let me know if any other info is needed. I'll try t get pics up but Photobucket just changed their policy.

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Hello, I'm new to the forum and picked up a Victory recently to add to the database. I found it local but didn't pick it up initially due to having reservations about it being an actual Victory. Here's the details:

Finish is dull but definitely not blue.
Smooth grips
Lanyard ring
4" barrel
38 s&w special ctg
Serial #: V 227198
Serial number match on grips, cylinder, extractor star, barrel flat

Here's why I had issues at first. The butt and top strap are lacking markings. But both places seem too have been modified due to possible machine scratches. The left top strap has light rust and the right does not. Mechanically, the gun is outstanding and the bore is clean. After following this thread, I saw some around this number I would guess puts it around Jan-Feb 1943. ....
You have the gun dated about right, and it does appear to be an "actual Victory".

The topstrap of a US version Victory like this may or may not be marked with a property stamping; guns that shipped to non-military destinations were not. However, if the appearance of the left and right topstrap surface are noticably different, that would give me pause.

Of more concern is the butt. I hope for you that the markings the butt lacks does not include the serial number there; that could be a legal issue.

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"The butt ... (is) lacking markings"

Is it your meaning that there is no SN on the butt, or it may have been removed?
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Sorry, I worded it wrong when I said no marking the V is missing.

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Phew. That's not something I'd worry about overmuch, although it is a bit odd if the V is present in the other locations like cylinder face and barrel flat. Someone must have "cleaned up" the other side of the lanyard hole, where the V was located. Technically, it's still a mutilated frame serial, and illegal, but realistically, I'd worry more about getting hit by an engine falling off a jetliner flying overhead.
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Phew. That's not something I'd worry about overmuch, although it is a bit odd if the V is present in the other locations like cylinder face and barrel flat. Someone must have "cleaned up" the other side of the lanyard hole, where the V was located. Technically, it's still a mutilated frame serial, and illegal, but realistically, I'd worry more about getting hit by an engine falling off a jetliner flying overhead.
Yeah the gun shop here would not have taken it if it was missing the butt serial number. Having seen what people do to guns, if someone removed the US Prop marking, I just shake my head thinking they probably didn't know or care about it. When I first saw it I assumed it was a DSC gun or a pre-model. I had t really look fr the V under the barrel and the other locations due t the amount of oil and dirt/carbon.

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Just this morning I decided I ought to post about my experience with what I believe to be a Victory model and I am happy to see this thread.
Unfortunately we are doing this in absentia (old school for without the gun in hand) as I sold it over 35 years ago.
I bought it in a local gun shop, where I knew the owner well, in the mid 70's. When I got to the shop that morning Ken was in negotiations with a lady who had brought the gun in. She left it behind for a while as she had other business to do. I asked Ken about it and he told me she was selling it because she no longer wanted her husband to have it in the house. He said to offer her 40 dollars for it and she took the offer.
The interesting part of that gun is that, although it was marked 38 S and W on the barrel it was overmarked 38 Special on the barrel flat and was in fact totally correctly chambered for 38 Special.
When I sold the gun to a Smith and Wesson collector in the mid 80's the mystery was solved. Very simply the gun had been bored and sleeved and the chambers cut for 38 Special. He felt that work, because it was done so well that the sleeve lines were only barely detectable on two chambers, would have likely been done by the British firm of Parker Hale. And I over doubled what I paid for it, selling it for 100CAD.
I wish I still had that gun so I could tell you more. Hopefully it has already made it into this database and one day when I have more time I will find it here.
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My foggy memory tells me that another thing I never really understood about that gun is that it did not have a V prefix in the serial number. Which I am guessing is because it is what is referred to today as a preVictory gun.
It had a 5 inch barrel and what certainly appeared to be original checkered grips. I cannot remember if it has a lanyard ring but my gut tells me it did not.
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My foggy memory tells me that another thing I never really understood about that gun is that it did not have a V prefix in the serial number. Which I am guessing is because it is what is referred to today as a preVictory gun.
It had a 5 inch barrel and what certainly appeared to be original checkered grips. I cannot remember if it has a lanyard ring but my gut tells me it did not.
If, as it appears, it did indeed have a pre-Victory serial number, the checkered stocks could have been original.

However, this having been one of the Parker-Hale sleeved guns, it is more likely it had a set of the post-war British checkered replacement stocks which we usually see on guns refurbished in Britain. They are encountered with original or shortened barrels, frequently have new sights (usually not the ones with original barrel length like the one you describe), and were often refinished in a commercial blue.
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That is the last part of the puzzle that started over 40 years ago for me. It did have a commercial blue finish. It makes sense that Parker-Hale would have done that.
Thanks for maintaining this thread.
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Serial V 509771 38 S&W, 5 inch, flaming bomb US Property GHD marked full matching serials even to right grip. “P” marking to cylinder, under barrel and Frame. Has British proof markings under left grip.
From reading through this thread I’d assume it was shipped early 1944 ?
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Serial V 509771 38 S&W, 5 inch, flaming bomb US Property GHD marked full matching serials even to right grip. “P” marking to cylinder, under barrel and Frame. Has British proof markings under left grip.
From reading through this thread I’d assume it was shipped early 1944 ?
Indeed, the data would suggest early 1944.

Your gun is in quite exceptional condition. Great original finish, vibrant case color. It’s very interesting about the commercial proofs; I’ve never seen those under the grip panels. Are the ones pictured the only ones? It should have the .38 .767” etc. somewhere. Any BNP on the cylinder?

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Indeed, the data would suggest early 1944.

Your gun is in quite exceptional condition. Great original finish, vibrant case color. It’s very interesting about the commercial proofs; I’ve never seen those under the grip panels. Are the ones pictured the only ones? It should have the .38 .767” etc. somewhere. Any BNP on the cylinder?
No, only proofs are those under left grip. None on cylinder or anywhere else.
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One more for the data base. V708806, 5 inch barrel, 38 S&W. Barrel, cylinder and frame match. No US Property marking. P marking left side top of frame. No British sold out of service marks. Has a small arrow pointing at V on butt. Another small arrow left frame behind cylinder release. A very small pinpoint star on frame in front of cylinder another on top of barrel almost at frame. These are not S&W rework stars and they are not the same configuration. Revolver has been suncorited in past however most is worn off barrel and top strap. I suspect Indian ownership as there is what appears to be a rack number painted in white on side plate where S&W emblem would be. Number is 170. Chamber and bore are bright and shinny. Still in the original 38 S&W caliber. Lack of US Property seemed odd.
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Revolver has been suncorited in past however most is worn off barrel and top strap. I suspect Indian ownership as there is what appears to be a rack number painted in white on side plate where S&W emblem would be. Number is 170. Chamber and bore are bright and shinny. Still in the original 38 S&W caliber. Lack of US Property seemed odd.
You’re almost correct, except Pakistani, not Indian.

The topstrap stamping has to have been there with that serial, as all BSR’s were Lend-lease at that time (late 1944), but this stamp was much shallower than others and likely was buffed off. The Pakistani refinish isn’t the same as the British Suncorite as far as I know; it’s coarser and could easily have wiped out the remnants of the property marking.
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Another Victory, V 410368 4 inch barrel 38 Special. No “US Property” stamps. Smooth walnut grips matching serials on grips, frame, cylinder, extractor and barrel.
DA over V marking on frame bottom in front of trigger guard. No proofs anywhere.

How come no US Property Mark or proofs?
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Another Victory, V 410368 4 inch barrel 38 Special. No “US Property” stamps. Smooth walnut grips matching serials on grips, frame, cylinder, extractor and barrel.
DA over V marking on frame bottom in front of trigger guard. No proofs anywhere.

How come no US Property Mark or proofs?
It is a gun that was shipped to a non-military end user, most likely on a Defense Supplies Corporation contract, or (statistically a lot less likely), the US Maritime Commission. These guns did not receive US property markings.

The absence of the P proofs likely places your gun into the period in 1943 when the single P on the butt had been discontinued but before the stamping of the triple P on frame/cylinder/barrel became universal on all Victory models, regardless whether military or other destination.

The other markings you describe don’t ring a bell; likely some mark by the end user.
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Default A few pics of the above 38 Special.

V 310468
Pic with my British 38/200 & British .38 (380) box of service ammunition.
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The 38 Special does have a flaming bomb stamp, it’s just visible below the V.
The mark mentioned above, DA over V are on frame forward of trigger guard, on barrel bottom near muzzle and side of cylinder.
Is this a proof mark or ownership marking?

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Hello all, FNG here with an old S&W Model 10 found overgrown in the crotch of a cherry tree. It looked like a peice of pipe sticking out just a 1/4 inch or so of the barrel was visible, but upon being split - lo and behold it was a pistol. The grips were rotted and scince replaced. My father in law cleaned it up. He said it looked like a leaper, then did some type of amateur bluing.
This is the story passed along to me when the gun was given to me by my now past Father-in-Law. It is pitted and in sorry shape and rebarreled (sleaved acually it looks like) to .22cal
The Serial is within the Victory status as it is V5358XX. ofcourse the picture shows alll the digits.
I'm just checking in to see what the knowledgable say about the pistol and what could or should be done to keep it, restore it or just make it more shootable. It is "safe" to fire now but spits between the cylinder to barrel gap.
What other proof marks should I look for or that would help in the identity, year made and maybe a bit of history as to where it went in its life. It has a crown and BNP stamped on cyl and frame above forcing cone as well as crossed swords on the left of the frame w M & 2 on foward of trigger guard. 6 0" barrel as stamped on barrell and 22LR and what looks like 8 TONS .
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Neat conversion. Originally a British Service version of the Victory from early summer 1944. Shipped to Britain under Lend-lease. From the Birmingham nitro proofs (BNP) and the barrel stampings, it was converted to .22 in Britain and commercial-proofed for the new caliber. The “crossed swords” are part of that, called a view mark.

I’ll leave conservation advice to others.

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Thanks. I was pretty sure it started its life as a 38/200. I had no idea "when", nice to know sometime in 1944. I also thought that it was converted back here in the states and the proof marks were just part of the lend lease. More info

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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! First, it is not a Model 10. Those didn't come along until S&W started issuing model numbers in 1957. It is correctly known as a Victory model British Service Revolver. It was originally chambered for .38 S&W and .38/200 Webley (not Special). The Brits used a 200 grain lead bullet then, later, a 178 grain jacketed bullet in them during the War. I suggest you have a gunsmith look at the cylinder to forcing cone alignment before you shoot it again. If it is spitting lead, something is probably bent. My guess is the extractor rod or yoke.
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V5358xx would have originally shipped in about March-April 1944. There were some conversions of them to .22 performed in England back in the 1950s-60s. Somewhere I have an old ad from the early 1960s which indicates that new .22 barrels were fitted and the .38 chambers were sleeved for .22. Yours appears to have such a replacement barrel. They are evidently somewhat scarce as I remember seeing only one of these, and not recently.
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Another for the data base. Pre-Victory 739304, 6 inch 38/200, all matching to include stocks, Canadian ownership marking. No other markings such as sold out of service, proofs, or import marks.

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A very handsome revolver, Bruce. Thanks for posting the info for the Database.
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Pretty new to posting to the forum but been lurking for a while. I'll put these two up then post the Mod 1905 4th Change I picked up a few weeks ago and the K38 Target Masterpiece I have from my Grandfather's passing (that thing is BEAUTIFUL!). Anyway, both of these Victories are US Property marked and chambered in 38 Special. I'm guessing the earlier one is early Spring of '44 and the later one is late '44.
#1 is V527657. It has by far the better finish of the two, everything is tight and trigger feels good on it though the stocks are a bit beat up.



#2 bears SN V704013 finish is much rougher on this one, looks like it had leprosy! Two cylinders are slightly out of time on this one but otherwise it's mechanically in very good shape.




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Here is my Serial #
V291286 ( What year was it made?)
4" barrel. .38 special
Gun is like new!
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Here is my Serial #
V291286 ( What year was it made?)
4" barrel. .38 special
Gun is like new!
Most likely spring 1943, around April. Does it have the property stamp on the top strap?
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V169375, US Navy marked, some pics posted in ore 61 hand ejectors thread
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You may have registered these 2 already from previous posts but if not;

V26862, U.S. NAVY on top strap, Property of U.S. NAVY on left side of frame.
V548132, P on left side frame/barrel/cylinder, flaming bomb on grip frame.

Letters requested on both.
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I am looking to purchase this Victory and have it restored.

The serial number is 626457. I believe it is chambered in .38 S&W.

Gun has been coated in what appears to be a black paint like finish which is coming off. The gun has smooth wallet grips and a lanyard. It’s in good working condition with an excellent barrel and forcing cone. Looks like hell though.

Any info?

It’s in very good ak
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I am looking to purchase this Victory and have it restored.

The serial number is 626457. I believe it is chambered in .38 S&W.

Gun has been coated in what appears to be a black paint like finish which is coming off. The gun has smooth wallet grips and a lanyard. It’s in good working condition with an excellent barrel and forcing cone. Looks like hell though.

Any info?

It’s in very good ak
I’m normally against any restoration, but black paint jobs are an exception. If you’re willing to spend the money, have at it. No collector value to ruin. Be aware, however, that the end result will likely not be worth what you put in it, unless you do it yourself as a project.

A 5” barrel and .38 S&W rather than 4” and Special would indeed be more likely. Is there a white number on the sideplate? That would indicate a Pakistani refinish. They did crude black paint, worse than the British Suncorite. Otherwise, it could have happened in another corner of the former empire, except Australia.

I assume that since you call it a Victory, there is a V in front of the number. V 626457 would fall in summer 1944.
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Omg! Such great info here!

Yes, there is a white painted number on the gun. It’s a number 4. It is also a 4” barrel.

The gun seems to be in near perfect mechanical condition. I see little to know signs it was ever fired. The barrel and riffling is perfect. No pits. The action is good. But it looks like utter hell.

It’s being sold for $400 and has been sitting at my local LGS for almost two years. No one as the store knows anything about it. I have done all the research.

Here is my plan....

Gain all the facts. If this think is I fact a pakastani gun its probably the least collectible of any of them.

The black coating is about 80% worn off and is even on the grips.

If I can get the gun for $300, I can have it sand blasted, blued, cerokoted, or duracoated for about $250 and would look amazing. I want to shoot the gun and be able to tell the story.

Once I show it to my refinisher he will offer opinions about what would look best. Duracoat in gloss black would look amazing, but not very original. A matte black might look more original.
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Btw, I can’t figure out how to post photos. Any help on that would be appreciated.
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You might rethink refinishing such an unusual Victory. If you want a pretty shooter, there are many others out there you can buy for less.

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