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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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The paperwork says that the boxes are carved from a single piece of wood. The cowboy box hinges are on the outside, while the buffalo box hinges are on the inside. I wonder why they are not done the same.
Also, even though they are both for the same gun, you will notice that both sides of the Cowboy box are deeply carved for the gun, whereas the Buffalo has shallower depressions on the lid.

I'd love to know if anyone else out there has one of these to compare.
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I am glad to see they went to a good Home and that one was not for an N Frame.....That would have killed me to miss it!
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Here are 3 shots of 50 and 100 year anniversary Walthers recently auctioned by Amoskeag. Who made the grips? I can't answer, but I have an idea we might know who. If it as Charlie as I suspect, this would represent very late work in his life, as he passed in 1989. Note the addition of acorns among the oak leafs. Haven't seen that before, have we?





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Oak leaves are a common theme in German carving and engraving. I've seen other similar oak leaf carved grips with a Germany stamp on the back. I don't believe these grips have anything to do with Wendell. Everything I have of his and have seen fairly scream 'American folk art', in the best way possible. There's grips do not.
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I'll accept that as likely being the fact. It would make more sense, although your "American Folk Art" wood carver was commissioned many times over the years to carve wood and ivory presentation grips for more than 1 gun maker.
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Here is mine..a target version.
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Nice! Do you have any more images of the revolver and the stocks? Is there a monogram on the right stock? What model is the Colt, an OM?
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Yes..OM
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I'll accept that as likely being the fact. It would make more sense, although your "American Folk Art" wood carver was commissioned many times over the years to carve wood and ivory presentation grips for more than 1 gun maker.
Certainly, his work was excellent and beautiful. I don't use folk art to disparage in any way. Still, I have never seen anything to indicate he would have carved something like that Walther banner in the third picture. It seems to me that commissioning him to make presentation grips would result in something more artful.


Skilled, do you have any shots of the back of those socks by any chance?
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While at a recent gun show, a Guy brought this Model 25-5 to me. We Traded guns and I ended up with it and after Many Trades that weekend I ended up not having anything in this Gun. It came to me with a set of Horrid Good-Year's on it so I decided that it deserved to have these original Roper's on it. I hope to get it on the Range this week to see how well it groups. The last one I had, did Not group well it had large cylinder throats I am hoping that this one does better on Target. Regards, Hammerdown



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Just picked up this set:

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Very Nice! I have never seen a pair in person. I have seen a few Ropers in person. I wonder if the numbers of Ropers and Kearsage Grips produced were similar? BTW, what do they fit?
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Thanks. They are for a Colt. And I think they are much more Rare than Ropers. I am a big Roper collector and probably have over 20 pairs. Only two Kearsarge.
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... And skilled, you get the added benefit with those grips that any revolver upon which they are mounted immediately becomes clearly marked "Politically Correct" much to the chagrin of anti-gunners everywhere!

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Baby napping, been cleaning the gun room, took a picture of some of my ropers. Thought I would resurrect another great old thread that has inspired me through the years to spend my money and own some things I really do love owning.

Kearsarge:



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I don't really have any good way to take group photos unfortunately, so the pictures aren't quite as good as I would like, especially of the ring of Ropers.

Also, I wish I had more Kearsarge to share with you, but dang are these things hen's teeth to find. Over the years I've ended up with 16 sets of Roper to the 4 sets of Kearsarge.
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I donít think Iíve ever seen a set of Kearsage stocks in the wild and never a set for sale!

The boxes he made were a real work of art.

Do they typically bring Roper type money?
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I donít think Iíve ever seen a set of Kearsage stocks in the wild and never a set for sale!

The boxes he made were a real work of art.

Do they typically bring Roper type money?
Good question.

I paid $5 for the set on the 1911.

The NRM came with them, as did the Colt Officer's Model, and the I-Frames came on another gun. I didn't actually pay anything like a premium on any of these guns. In fact I spent less then $2500 on the NRM, which I still consider a steal.

So I guess if you find a set just by themselves they only cost $5, or on a gun maybe a slight premium, but not much.

In all seriousness as to value. Probably about like Ropers. If someone wanted to sell them I'd expect to pay something close. The thing is that as cool as they are, there just aren't enough of them around to support a real collector's market. I think most guys who have a set don't really put much effort into looking for more. I'm just weird I think, I love them because they remind me of my grandpa.

In the years I have been looking for them, aside from the 4 I have purchased, I've seen only another two sets (on guns) sell. One set was on that awesome RM King colt that I think is in this very thread. Another set was on a Straightline. Both guns I think went between $1,000-$1,500. The Kearsarge stocks certainly didn't bring much of a premium on either gun.

Elmer Keith's 3 sets did, but that was because the set that belonged on his prototype .357 Magnum had migrated to a re-finished triple lock (where they absolutely did not belong). So the buyer of that prototype had to fight someone else not just for the Magnum, but also for the Triple Lock, so you could say that set sold for $11,000.

The other two sets of Elmer's were mirrored, and a pair, with a full double holster rig and sold back in '15, and sold for just shy of 40k before fees. I still think he got a rather good deal on those considering all the history. I really wish I had the cash at the time, I'm very happy with the gun I did get from the auction, but this set..boy:




Then, recently D.B. Wesson's gun sold for 48k (plus fees):



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My personal opinion on the subject of value is that they are on part with nice Ropers. The rarity of them being a double edged sword in that it reduces the collector pool significantly. Offsetting the increase in value that rarity usually brings.

Hell, when I bought the two boxes no one else bid against me. I was prepared to really fight hard for them too. I think people just don't look for such things too hard. I know that's why I snagged the $5 set of 1911s off of ebay, again no one bid against me.

In any case, a lot of my ropers at this point are actually tucked away as trade material for Kearsarge. I don't really care if they don't really have the collectability of Ropers, or (in my belief) as much value upside as good Ropers will have in coming years. I just like them.
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I have a photo like that!

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