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Old 01-19-2012, 03:57 PM
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Hello,

I found a 6.5 inch barreled
British proof marked on the cylinder all around

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in .455

Underneath the .455

it was stamped again by a proof house maybe with this below:

455" . 760 "
6 tons per (symbol for a square)


is that a .455 Webley or .455 Eley round?


The gun is missing the original grips, but it is in about 75% condition + and tight

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is that a .455 Webley or .455 Eley round?

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YES! The two rounds are interchangeable.
As to value, you don't mention if it's a First Model (aka Triple Lock) or a Second Model (very similar to the US Model 1917). Value could range from mayble $300 to a thousand. Post some pics for more specifics.
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There is no shroud covering the ejector pin, so I believe it is a second model.
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That is 2nd Model. The value of these revolvers has been rising quickly, but mostly in high finish examples. A 95% example is approaching $1000 now with correct grips, with higher finish going well beyond that price. Walnut service grips with gold S&W rounds are available if you keep looking at ebay, Gunbroker, etc.

You might see $500 for one as you describe, but original grips would help that value. This is only a guess without seeing the gun. Fiocchi .455 Webley is available and reloading dies can be found as well.

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Has the cylinder been rechambered? Common changes were to .45 Colt or to .45 ACP/.45 AutoRim.
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hasn't been rechambered that I can tell....

the caliber is marked like I noted in the above first post.

I know the .45 colt conversions usually X out the last 5 of the .455....

This one is still clearly there.

The price is tempting, but, with the condition being so low, I don't think I will risk it on this one with such an oddball caliber
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.45 Colt conversions usually countersink (recess) rather than shave (.45 ACP). Marking, re-marking etc. is all over the map. I've looked at 3 recently none were so marked.

Hornady also loads .455 MK I. $400+/- is generally where they actually sell on the net, shooters that is. Collector specimens $750-$1100 for a second issue.
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The .455 to .45 Colt that I owned back in the late '70s did not have the markings changed either.
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Default .455 Hand Ejectors...

.455 Hand Ejector, Second Models don't bring as much money as they should, which is really a shame considering their place in history. A comparable gun in .44 Special brings at least 50% more...



This .455 HE2nd has been converted by S&W in May of 1936 from .455 to .45 Colt. See the rework stamps under the stocks.



I would put the percentage of finish on this example to be about 65-70%..



However high condition .455 Hand Ejector, First Models, AKA: "Triplelock" bring really silly money (I know, because I paid it ).





This detail shows the "Triplelock" just in case you haven't seen one before...



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