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A Pair Army Navy Model 1899
In 1899 the Army placed orders for 1000 Hand Ejector revolvers and the Navy placed orders for 2000 chambered for the M1892 .38 US Service Cartridge (.38 LC). They the then became known as the Army or Navy Model of 1899. Here are two of those 3000 revolvers. The Army revolver (1st Model)shown is the Army model S&W SN 13670 was one of first 1000. The Navy revolver (2nd Model) is S&W SN 25441(Navy SN 1432 ) was one of the second 1000 Navy revolvers.
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Here are a few more pictures. I love the grips on these old revolvers.
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Nice guns! There were 1000 each of the 1899s (no forward locking point for the ejector rod) for the Army and Navy. There were then a second order of 1000 of a later version, the 1902 (with the front locking point), for only the Navy; this is the second one you have.
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Nice guns! There were 1000 each of the 1899s (no forward locking point for the ejector rod) for the Army and Navy. There were then a second order of 1000 of a later version, the 1902 (with the front locking point), for only the Navy; this is the second one you have.
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Yep. The Navy is a Model of 1902 (no change).
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06-25-2012, 09:25 PM
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Here they are with their holster/belt rigs. Unfortunately, the Navy is with a holster and belt appropriate for the Colt M1909 .45 revolver which are close to the correct holster/belt for the Navy revolver. So, is the Navy revolver referred to as a M1902 or M1899? THANKS
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06-26-2012, 01:41 PM
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The gun is a model 1902. It was incorrectly advertised on GB, but it is still a very desirable and fine condition revolver.
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06-26-2012, 06:31 PM
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Very very nice
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Correct US 1899 holsters
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Here they are with their holster/belt rigs. Unfortunately, the Navy is with a holster and belt appropriate for the Colt M1909 .45 revolver which are close to the correct holster/belt for the Navy revolver. So, is the Navy revolver referred to as a M1902 or M1899? THANKS
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Wondering if you guys can help me out. I'm currently looking at a leather USN Holster M1892 which I'm being told is "the" correct holster for the 1902 Navy. I'd really like "the" correct holster / rig or the 1902 Navy and the 1899 US Army. Please advise. Best Regards ...
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I have one of the first thousand that went to the Navy. Mine is SN 5208. At sometime in its history it went to England and got British proof marks, and it has been refinished, probably also in England since it appears to be a rust blue rather than a hot blue.
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I have one of the first thousand that went to the Navy. Mine is SN 5208. At sometime in its history it went to England and got British proof marks, and it has been refinished, probably also in England since it appears to be a rust blue rather than a hot blue.
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Any chance of posting photos showing the British markings?
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Been away for a long while involved with Colt SAA. When I orginally posted I did not have the correct belt and holster for the Navy version but I have now acquired rare correct Mills belt and holster to go with Navy revolver.
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It's amazing how much more beat up the Navy 1899's got versus the Army......it suppose it's true that they Navy threw them all in a barrel and they got tumbled around between uses.
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Been away for a long while involved with Colt SAA. When I orginally posted I did not have the correct belt and holster for the Navy version but I have now acquired rare correct Mills belt and holster to go with Navy revolver.
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Norwich Cadet posts less than I do, that's fairly rare. Glad to see his very nice acquisition, from 2015, of the blue US Navy rig for his revolver. There was also a khaki rig with Navy marked snaps, I suspect used by the Marines. It has a hook closure rather than the fancier Navy eagle.
These old military Smiths are fairly scarce and the rigs even more so I think.
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It's amazing how much more beat up the Navy 1899's got versus the Army......it suppose it's true that they Navy threw them all in a barrel and they got tumbled around between uses.
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I've only owned several 1899 Army / 1899 Navy / 1902 Navy, now only have one of each, currently but have seen many over the years. The 3 I have now came from Dr. Parker of Perry, FL about 25 years ago.
There was one more 1899 Army that had gone back to the factory for a new barrel but the factory stamped the barrel SN: 1899 which was NOT the serial number but rather the year 1899 stamped on the butt. I figure some assistant machinist or over-worked laborer or intoxicated laborer stamped the number from the year 1899 on the butt and not the actual serial number.
I sent that one out for auction a few years later. If anyone has this one, log in and update me on it.
Almost all of them are of similar condition, like 85-90% blue coverage but very lightly "dinged" all over as if a lanyard chain had slapped them ... or (as you say) ... were stored in a barrel between uses or wars.
Remember, these ALL went into service !
I've seen very few in better condition and would look even closer for a refinish if it were "too" nice (unless it came from Roy's collection).
With only 1000 of each, total 3000, and now 115 to 118 years old, those conditions are pretty nice.
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Would it be possible for you to send me more pictures of this holster and belt? I have been looking everywhere for a Boxer Rebellion USMC rig. Not sure if there will ever be the possibility of a reproduction or what. But I was wanting to see what one looked like. Was hoping to use one in honor of my dad who retired a USMC. Thanks for any help you can give!
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In 1899 the Army placed orders for 1000 Hand Ejector revolvers and the Navy placed orders for 2000 chambered for the M1892
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This is not quite right. The Army and Navy each ordered 1000, in 1899. Army serial numbers are 13000 - 14000, and navy serial numbers are 5000 - 6000.
Then, in about 1902 ( two years later ) the Navy ordered another 1000 revolvers. This time they got the Model of 1902. The total of these three order is 3000 revolvers.
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Love them, I have a 38 Srmy that is my favorite S&W to shoot. Let me know if you want to unload onewill be happy to discuss.
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