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Seeing Pete 45's recent thread on his father's K-22 Outdoorsman

I Have This Old Gun ~ S&W .22 Revolver

and the fact that it is a holiday weekend and I had the camera out today, I thought that it is time to start a K-22 Outdoorsman Appreciation Thread, by priming the thread with a few photos of my nicest example of the K-22 OD and scans of the K-22 Outdoorsman's Brochure.

SN 635065 shipped 6/29/1931 in a burgundy M&P hinged or "Patent" box with the Green label and a "22-38 H.E." stamp on the inside of the box. It has a single elevation screw rear sight and a Call gold bead front sight:



















Brochure - "As Accurate as a Watch; As Sturdy as a Tractor":









Please post your favorite photos of "The "K-22" Outdoors-man's Revolver" as I have not been able to "get my fill" of this beautiful model lately.

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Here's one that shipped in July of 1933.

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These are fine guns and I am happy to play.

Here is 634373 and an appropriate first-year box (but not original to the gun). Like Richard's, this one also shipped in June 1931, but I don't have the destination or exact date. Time to break out the letter request forms.



Here is my other K-22 OD, 646390, which shipped April 1934. I believe this is the lowest known serial number with the two-screw rear sight foot. (Two at the back, that is; we don't count the one at the front of the foot.)

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Those are some beauties, thanks for posting the pictures
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Everyone needs a K-22. This one dates to 1937.
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RK and David, I love the early maroon boxes and guns. Here's mine shipped 1-29-37 to Hibbard Spencer and Bartlett & Co., Chicago, IL.

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There are some slight changes in the K 22 Outdoorsman from a early vs late shipment standpoint. The early guns (as shown above by RK and David) were shipped in the maroon boxes, with call gold bead front sights, and a rear sight with a single elevation screw. The later guns as mine, were shipped in a red picture box, with a call silver bead front sight, and a rear sight with double elevation screws. One other niche for the K 22 OD collector is the subtle difference in the four page brochure. Note the difference in in the trademark at the top left hand corner of the page. I believe the first brochure pictured is the earlier one.

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Hello Everyone
Nice Outdoorsman's and S&W got them right from the start in 1931. To me, The Outdoorsman series of revolver's were the Height of quality at S&W. Here is mine that shipped in September 1936. I do shoot it occasionally, but it has never been holstered. It shoot's as good as it looks. Can't help to love these Outdoorsman's....









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I unfortunately have no pictures to contribute, but what amazing guns and photo skills you guys have!
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Here's an engraved ( to Andrew Melon ) one that I was privileged to own for awhile.




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After all these really nice ones, here's mine. Lots of carry wear and some scratches, but she shoots great and you don't have to be afraid to take her out. I've had this one for at least 25 years.

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Here's a couple of beaters.



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One other niche for the K 22 OD collector is the subtle difference in the four page brochure. Note the difference in in the trademark at the top left hand corner of the page. I believe the first brochure pictured is the earlier one.
Chad:

Thanks for sharing. I've never paid that close of attention to the paperwork. So, this morning I went back and looked through my pre-war brochures: Three of "The K-22 Outdoors-man's Revolver" brochure - all have the 1st type of TM; Three of "The S.& W. ".357" Magnum" brochure - one (the earliest of the three) has the 1st type of TM and two have the 2nd type TM (and I agree with you that it is a later TM); and Three of "The .38/44 Outdoorsman's Revolver" brochure - none of which have any TM on them.

Fun trivia to file away.
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My ole beater dating to November 1935.
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Or maybe a better way of saying it "Like a fool I sold it for a tiny profit".
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my "beater" from late 37 or early 38...
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lets not forget about the K-22 King Guns.
This one shipped in 1934 has all the Options including Roper Grips.
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Number 644487 shipped to a S.F. Crossman, in St. Lois, MO, 12/2/32 and is in very nice condition excepting numerous inexplicable scratches in the barrel. I can't shoot it with the factory grips so either put Sanderson or Fitz thumbrest on when it goes to the range.




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I couldn't agree more. I've posted this one before, but it is one of my favorites. SN 639380 has the full King Super Target treatment including the cockeyed hammer and shipped 3/18/1932. The grip adapter does not letter with the gun, but is a period appropriate addition that I added - just because I thought it was cool.





Cockeyed Hammer and Rear Sight:





Front Gold "bead" and Reflector Base in action:



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The grip adapter does not letter with the gun, but is a period appropriate addition that I added - just because I thought it was cool.
...and it is COOL =)
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This old gal shipped to Denver in November, 1935.
Came with its box and papers.
Currently it has this set of Ropers, but the original grips are packed away safely.
Accuracy is superb!
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some really great pictures in here, I need to work with my camera more!
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WOW! There are some really nice ones here!!

Here's mine, shipped April 30, 1937 to Shapleigh Hardware Company, St. Louis, MO. It was shipped with checkered walnut grips and is now sporting a pair of vintage stag grips.

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Linda:

I know that you have shared it somewhere before, but I cannot recall the story of that hammer on your K-22. Do you mind sharing it again, along with a couple of more photos of the hammer? I love to see those custom adjustments, that make a "plain" Outsoorsman, a "custom affair".

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Richard, you've got a great memory!

Here are a couple more pics...

This Outdoorsman came with both the hammer device and aftermarket (custom??) weighted target grips. There's a brass weight attached to the inside of the grips. An interesting setup for sure! Whoever had it was most likely a devoted shooter!

The function of the hammer is similar to a "cockeyed" hammer. There's a "U" shaped piece that fits around the hammer and is pinned in place. There's no maker's name on it at all. It's a dream to shoot!











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Linda:

You've got to love the creativity and engineering that went into solving desires for a wider hammer and a more butt heavy gun.

Thanks for refreshing my memory. Great photos!
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The "hammer shoe" looks like it was definitely made for a right handed person. Just wonder why they didn't make both sides of it the same so that it could be used by both left and right handed shooters. The hammer looks to be original (with patent stamping on the back)... it was drilled out to accept the pin the holds the "shoe" in place.

The previous owner used either red paint or red lock-tite on the rear sight to keep it from drifting.

I don't know if the trigger has been adjusted or not... it's very smooth, crisp and light. It might be typical of the 1930's Smiths. I've got a .38 Colt Target with similar trigger pull.

It's a cool gun for sure... maybe not as pretty as some of the ones out there. It's been well taken care of with just some small scratches and a little wear. There are no dings on the face of the cylinder. I usually keep snap caps in the .22's I have and don't worry about dry-firing them.
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I have shown this one many times before, but it is the only one I got. It is a very early gun. The letter says:

“We have researched your Smith & Wesson K-22 Outdoorsman or K-22 First Model, First Production Group, caliber .22 Long Rifle, in company records which indicate that your handgun, with serial number 632157, was shipped from our factory on January 17, 1931, and delivered to Folsom Arms Co., New York City. NY. The records indicate that this firearm was shipped with a 6 inch barrel, blue finish, and checkered walnut grips. This shipment was for five units of this model and they were billed at $22.13 each. This revolver has been modified by the addition of a King super ramp and sight.”





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Hi
Here are three K-22 with the three different sights that were available from the Factory.
1. This is a early 1931 gun with the Call Gold Bead Front Sight
2. This is a gun that was shipped to Ed McGivern in May of 1932 with the McGivern Gold
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3. This is a late shipment 6/1939 with the Call Silver Bead Front Sight, This gun is all
Matching with the original red box.

A little more information on the McGivern Gun. This gun and 5 others were ordered by Ed
to start a Police Shooting Team in Lewistown Mt. the order was for 2 K-22 and 4 K-38
Targets all with McGivern Gold Bead front sights. I have one of the K-38,s and one of the K-22,s from this order. I also have letters back and forth from Douglas Wesson and Ed
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This has been a great thread for me. Thanks for sharing your K-22 O/D beauties.

My kids routinely go to the local RedBox machine to get videos and games for their entertainment and viewing pleasure. I, on the other hand, go to this RedBox "machine" for my entertainment and viewing pleasure:



There are a couple of pre-war 22/40 Masterpieces in the mix as well, you know... to keep it interesting and give the "machine" a bit of variety.

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This has been a great thread for me. Thanks for sharing your K-22 O/D beauties.

My kids routinely go to the local RedBox machine to get videos and games for their entertainment and viewing pleasure. I, on the other hand, go to this RedBox "machine" for my entertainment and viewing pleasure:



There are a couple of pre-war 22/40 Masterpieces in the mix as well, you know... to keep it interesting and give the "machine" a bit of variety.

Closer-ups of the contents:







Thanks for letting me share,
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This has been a great thread for me. Thanks for sharing your K-22 O/D beauties.

My kids routinely go to the local RedBox machine to get videos and games for their entertainment and viewing pleasure. I, on the other hand, go to this RedBox "machine" for my entertainment and viewing pleasure:



There are a couple of pre-war 22/40 Masterpieces in the mix as well, you know... to keep it interesting and give the "machine" a bit of variety.

Closer-ups of the contents:







Thanks for letting me share,
Thanks for letting you share? Sheesh...Thanks for sharing! Amazing, amazing, amazing!
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I guess you have to have at least two before they start multiplying on there own?

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I guess you have to have at least two before they start multiplying on there own?
Two is a start, but to keep the K-22 genetic integrity, you need a bit larger gene pool, otherwise the inbreeding causes mutations such as Kit Guns, Ladysmiths and 22/32s...
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Two is a start, but to keep the K-22 genetic integrity, you need a bit larger gene pool, otherwise the inbreeding causes mutations such as Kit Guns, Ladysmiths and 22/32s...
Richard,

All I can say is OH MY GOODNESS!

I had no idea that they have multiplied like they have. Congratulations and thanks for posting that picture of them all together.
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A little more information on the McGivern Gun. This gun and 5 others were ordered by Ed
to start a Police Shooting Team in Lewistown Mt. the order was for 2 K-22 and 4 K-38 Targets all with McGivern Gold Bead front sights. I have one of the K-38,s and one of the K-22,s from this order. I also have letters back and forth from Douglas Wesson and Ed about these guns. These letters were in the S&W Historical records.

Enjoy the story and the Guns.
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Jim:

I just went back and re-read the correspondence between Ed and DBW. What a great read! It really makes the guns come alive and shares some insight into the lives, habits and relationships of those that used and made them. Thanks so much for researching, pulling this info together and sharing it with us.

Tons of fun,
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Hi Richard
There is more information in my display records but I didn't have time to dig it all out.
the K-22 was gifted to a friend of Eds in 1937 I have the letter from Ed to his friend
at that time the Magns were put on the gun and ed sent the original grips with the gun
I got the gun from a niece of the friend. with the original screw driver and all the brushes. she has not found the box yet or the original grips she says there here some were. The K-38 was owned by the Police man that is in the Photo on the left side of the picture. He used the gun as a police man until he retired in 1958. The gun went to a couple of different people before it came to me. But the police man put his name on the inside of the grips that what started this whole display. The picture was obtained from the police chief in Lewistown Mt. who went back in the records and found the picture.
He is a relative of a friend of mine who is a member of the S&WCA.
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I was feeling a need to scratch my ever constant Outdoorsman "itch" and I searched the forum to try and help me out. This thread popped up again and I thought that there has to be some more of you out there that would like to add some photos of your O/D's to this thread...please?
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I bought this at a pawn shop back in '91. It has been my main side kick on every camping trip since. It's not a beauty as the others shown here but it is all original, well maintained, no box or papers though, and is a tack driver.







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I just bought one, as seen in this thread;

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-han...tdoorsman.html

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6388xx. Shipped Nov 1931, first yr gun, gold call bead sight. Original box is ratty compared to condition of gun, but its there. Purchased from family of original owner passed down thru 3 generations. She is a sweetie pie.

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6388xx. Shipped Nov 1931, first yr gun, gold call bead sight. Original box is ratty compared to condition of gun, but its there. Purchased from family of original owner passed down thru 3 generations. She is a sweetie pie.

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Beautiful O/D! On the box, does it happen to be a maroon box or is it the standard red picture box? If it is the red box, are the "instructions" printed on the inside of the lid or the inside of the bottom?

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Red box. Instructions in lid.






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Nuthin' ratty about that box my friend. Looks like,to me anyhow,it did it's job most admirably.
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