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Model of 1953 Kit Gun
Gentlemen and Ladies:
I have a friend who is getting ready to sell a collection of guns on behalf of a small foundation. He has given me an opportunity to look them over before he puts them on the market. Among them is a Model of 1953 .22/32 with a 4" barrel. The serial number is 322xx, which seems pretty early. I saw this revolver several months ago but I can't remember the screw pattern. I believe it only had 3 in the side plate, but I'm not positive. He should be sending me pictures soon.
Here's the issue: He is willing to give me a slight edge on the price, but he also has a fiduciary responsibility. Can you help me determine a fair price on the Kit Gun for a starting point?
The condition is like-new - the gun shows no wear at all, no scratches to the finish, very faint turn line. It is wearing original stocks. No box or tools.
Thanks.
Jack
He also has a 25-2, two Model 60s and a late production 53. No boxes for anything and one of the Chiefs Special Stainless revolvers is wearing Goodyears. I think these are the only S&W items in the collection.
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I paid $700 for #13278 about a year ago. Show with its favorite holster...
I put these target grips on to shoot it. One of several favorites. At the time I traded off another almost as nice for about $600, on a pre-model 35.
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I've got serial #666 and my buddy has #237. At the gun show 2 weeks ago a vendor still had #890 and he wanted $850 for it, and it had a box.
I'd go with a value of maybe $600 or $650 for one up in that serial number range.
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Gentlemen and Ladies:
I have a friend who is getting ready to sell a collection of guns on behalf of a small foundation. He has given me an opportunity to look them over before he puts them on the market. Among them is a Model of 1953 .22/32 with a 4" barrel. The serial number is 322xx, which seems pretty early. I saw this revolver several months ago but I can't remember the screw pattern. I believe it only had 3 in the side plate, but I'm not positive. He should be sending me pictures soon.
Here's the issue: He is willing to give me a slight edge on the price, but he also has a fiduciary responsibility. Can you help me determine a fair price on the Kit Gun for a starting point?
The condition is like-new - the gun shows no wear at all, no scratches to the finish, very faint turn line. It is wearing original stocks. No box or tools.
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Hi Jack,
Yes, that sounds like a beauty and would likely be a 3 screw and although not Model 34 stamped, likely didn't ship until mid-1958 per my data base. So not that early of a gun. Therefore I feel a price with a "slight edge" and fair to his fiduciary responsibility would be $500-525 if a RB.
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SDH,
Nice Kit Gun and nice holster, is it by El Paso Saddlery?
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01-14-2013, 01:54 PM
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Hi Jack,
Yes, that sounds like a beauty and would likely be a 3 screw and although not Model 34 stamped, likely didn't ship until mid-1958 per my data base. So not that early of a gun.
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Thanks, Jim. I appreciate the help on a date. It has the look of a later gun, but the SCSW doesn't provide much detail on serial ranges. And the absence of a model mark had me confused. Was there a delay in stamping these little I frames? Also, as I understand it, these remained on the Improved I frame until the early 1960s, correct?
Turns out it has a 2" barrel, not 4", and, as we suspected, a 3 screw frame.
Here are a couple photos I now have of this gun. The stocks are not original, obviously.
Is your value opinion still the same?
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I'd go with a value of maybe $600 or $650 for one up in that serial number range.
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Thanks, Dick. Now that you have photos to look at, is your opinion the same or different? I appreciate the help both you and Jim are giving me!
Jack
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SDH,
Nice Kit Gun and nice holster, is it by El Paso Saddlery?
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It's a Don Hume holster, you don't see them with white lining on black very often.
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SDH
Sorry. Didn't mean to ignore your input. I was so taken by your photo that I didn't notice the price information! That is a nice looking holster, and Don Hume made good ones!
I think the subject gun, being a 2" and much newer would not likely command the price that your early example would. Plus it lacks proper stocks. What do you think?
I really want a 4" Kit Gun, but I'll probably end up buying this one, once I am able to arrive at a proper price.
Thanks for your help.
Jack
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i think they are all over price, but send off a check for another .44 today...
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Originally Posted by JP@AK
Thanks, Jim. I appreciate the help on a date. It has the look of a later gun, but the SCSW doesn't provide much detail on serial ranges. And the absence of a model mark had me confused. Was there a delay in stamping these little I frames? Also, as I understand it, these remained on the Improved I frame until the early 1960s, correct?
Turns out it has a 2" barrel, not 4", and, as we suspected, a 3 screw frame.
Here are a couple photos I now have of this gun. The stocks are not original, obviously.
Is your value opinion still the same?
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Completed guns in inventory and frames in progress during a change order like the Mod 34 stamping are common and would ship after the order date w/o being stamped.
Yes the 22/32 continued to be built on the new model of 1953 I frame until Oct 1960.
My opinion on the value would decrease somewhat since the stocks are not original although the condition seems very nice.
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but send off a check for another .44 today...
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Nice suggestion, SDH, but I already have 5 or 6 .44s (two are guns that go hunting with me). Unless I stumble on a near perfect 4 screw 29 or pre-29 at a price I can't walk away from, I'm not likely to buy another one soon!
Jack
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Nice suggestion, SDH, but I already have 5 or 6 .44s (two are guns that go hunting with me). Unless I stumble on a near perfect 4 screw 29 or pre-29 at a price I can't walk away from, I'm not likely to buy another one soon!
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Speed typing.. I meant to say, I think that they are all overpriced, but I just sent off a check for another .44 Special... a 3rd Model HE 5".
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