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SERIAL NUMBER HELP= First Model Hand Ejector - Triple Lock
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Probably early 1909. The first model started production in 1908, with about 2000 made that year.
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What caliber?
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I suspect it's the .455 he mentions in the other string.
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Originally Posted by Doug M.
I suspect it's the .455 he mentions in the other string.
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Did S&W even chamber anything in .455 in 1909? And most of those from then were in .44 Special. I guess it could have been later converted to .455.
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DWalt,
I think the OP's # 2268 could make it one of the 455 HE 1st Model triple lock British contract guns numbered from 1 to 5461, manufactured 1914-15, depending on what stamps it has, if any.
It might be a civilian ordered 44 Hand Ejector 1st Model TL chambered in 455 Mk II, but if so, I think it would likely have British proofs but not have English military stamps like the one in this thread: First Model HE .455 - London Proof?
I doubt that it's converted.
It's not one of the first .44 HE 1st Model TLs in 455 Mk II chambering, often not .455 stamped, that were sold to the British. Although these 666 were numbered in the 44 HE serial # range of #1104 thru 10417, the OP's # is not among the #s listed. Nor is it in the list of 146 #s of this version released for commercial sales.
But the 1st British contract guns were 455 HE 1st Model triple locks numbered from 1 to 5461 in their own 455 serial # series. If the OP's gun has English military stampings, it is almost certainly one of these.
Because the only other 455 HE 1st Model TLs, though in the 44 TL # series (possibly because they may have been built on 44 HE TL frames), were 691 produced near the end of the British contract and are not at all likely to be numbered that low.
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The Triple Locks are a rare bird. Normal rules often just don't apply and for any of a number of reasons. First and foremost, giving the serial number isn't a big help because they were slow movers. Lots of reasons why, but they didn't sell all that well.
Worse, the low number guns were all duplicated. I know that sounds harsh, but all numbered below 5,000 and something had another, shadow or ghost gun made with the same serial. The civilian guns and then the British guns. Yes, the ones made for the Brits were originally in .455, but that doesn't mean they still are. And as another poster above pointed out, the British ones were in the mid 19-teens. There seem to be some other flukes in serials, like some are higher than the often quoted 15, 375. Worse, there seem to be some 2nd models with lower serials. It apparently wasn't as important 100 years ago as we make it seem today.
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