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Old 11-22-2014, 08:39 PM
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I recently inherited my great grandfather's 38 special but I know nothing about it or if it's even legal for me to own since I have no way to furnish proof of its origin. Can anyone provide and useful information about it please?
Type: Hand ejector
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:55 PM
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A Hand Ejector .38 Military & Police, all right.
Somebody will come along and look up the "change" and the year made.

Where do you live? Most (not all) places in the USA, you don't have to prove the origin of a firearm. There are a few repressive jurisdictions where you have a limited time to register an inherited gun in your own name.
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It would date between 1909-1915.
It's a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - 3rd Change.
As long as you can legally own a firearm in your state and as long as the serial numbers have not been removed you should be able to possess it.
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I live in MS & am stationed in SC
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Welcome! It likely dates to around 1911 and collectors would call it a .38 M & P model 1905 3rd change. It has a later (1930s) pair of wood stocks. If it is mechanically sound (consult a gunsmith if you are not sure) light .38 Special loads like 148 gr wadcutters should be fine to use. No concerns about having a paperwork trail in either of those states, I think. Hope this is helpful.
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Stationed as in military? Then you have the luxury of claiming your home of record and permanent station as residences.
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Stationed as in military? Then you have the luxury of claiming your home of record and permanent station as residences.
Yes & what advantage does that give me exactly?
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Look, neither SC or MS is among the Nazi states. You're fine.

As long as you didn't steal the gun and didn't buy it from someone who did, you don't need to do anything else about possessing it legally. You don't need "proof of its origin."

As for the gun, it is seriously cosmetically challenged. But it should make a perfectly good shooter. Enjoy it at the local range all you want. Alan has already given you good advice concerning the proper ammo.
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Look, neither SC or MS is among the Nazi states. You're fine.

As long as you didn't steal the gun and didn't buy it from someone who did, you don't need to do anything else about possessing it legally. You don't need "proof of its origin."

As for the gun, it is seriously cosmetically challenged. But it should make a perfectly good shooter. Enjoy it at the local range all you want. Alan has already given you good advice concerning the proper ammo.
Thank you. & Would a refinish do the trick?
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It appears to have the original nickel finish, which tends to flake and peel over time. Personally I would control any corrosion or rust you might see by gently removing it, use wax to protect the remaining finish and call it good. You could easily spend more than the value of the gun to refinish it that will then have 0% original finish, and will not increase its value.
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It appears to have the original nickel finish, which tends to flake and peel over time. Personally I would control any corrosion or rust you might see by gently removing it, use wax to protect the remaining finish and call it good. You could easily spend more than the value of the gun to refinish it that will then have 0% original finish, and will not increase its value.
Oh alright thanks man. I'm not concerned about it's monetary value however
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The earlier date estimate of 1911 should be correct. There are very few good reasons for refinishing such a revolver, unless you simply want to and can afford the expense, which, as previously stated, would probably exceed the value of the gun. It's usually better to sell the gun and buy another in better condition. However, as yours is an heirloom, that's probably not something you would consider doing.
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It's definitely not something I'd ever consider selling or trading.
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Yes & what advantage does that give me exactly?
You can legally buy firearms in both states.

What branch of the service are you in?
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Check the carry law in SC and get a concealed carry license if they allow it. Until we changed our law in Alabama, you had to have a concealed carry license to transport a handgun in a vehicle. Most states have reciprocal agreements with other non-Nazi states. So, if you get a carry permit in one of these states, it should be good in other free states. But, be sure to check the laws in states where you take the gun. Some states - like Florida - permit concealed carry but not open carry and have restrictions on carrying a loaded gun in the vehicle.

BTW, those grips, although battered, have some value. There are artisans here on the forum that can restore them for you. They aren't correct for the gun, but will look better than the plain flat top wooden grips that are right for those years.
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You can legally buy firearms in both states.

What branch of the service are you in?
I'm a Navy Nuke
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Me, too. Ex-reactor operator on an FBM sub...long, long ago <sigh>. Welcome to the forum!
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