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Here are a dozen small frame guns:

Well I picked up and added one here to the party, a pre 40. Be on the lookout for gun #2

Six non model marked guns:


Five model marked guns:



1. Pre 36, five screw frame, serrated ramp sight, first style flat latch, baby-j frame (short grip), red box w/ papers and tools.



2. Pre 40, four screw frame, second style flat latch, red box w/ papers.


3. Pre 37, four screw frame, second style flat latch, transitional box.


4. Pre 34, four screw frame, second style flat latch.


5. Pre 30, three screw frame, second style flat latch.


6. Pre 34, three screw frame, second style flat latch.


7. Model 31, three screw frame, third style flat latch, interesting box.


8. Model 36, three screw frame, third style flat latch.


9. Model 36, three screw frame, third style flat latch.


10. Model 36, three inch barrel, three screw frame, third style flat latch.


11. Model 49
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Great photos of some very cool guns!

Thanks for sharing,
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Cool set of I and J frames. Waiting to see the additional two.
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After that display of incredible photography a lot of people could shy away. It's a hard act to follow. Beautiful guns and great photography. Keep them coming.
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The "little" guns are always a Joy.

32 HE 3rd Model


22/32 Heavy Frame Target


36-6, 3'


Mod 60


Mod 40


38 Regulation Police


Mod 940


Mod 36 (with early BK grip adapter)


32 HE Postwar (Pre-30)


32 HE Postwar 2"


Mod 63-1


Mod 34-1


I haven't included any top break or antique "little ones", but have to include a 2" 32 Safety Hammerless Bicycle gun.
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Here are a few small guns. 34, 30, 31, and 32.
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Beautiful guns. The Red Box .38 Chief is a stunner!
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.32 Hand Ejector/Regulation Police (in evolutionary order):

LEFT SIDE:
.32 HE pre-war I frame Model 1903 (2nd Model)-5th Change, 3 ”, c. 1913, top left;
.32 Regulation Police Transitional I Frame w/Rd sight, 3 ”, 6 screw, rebated sq butt, c. 1949; next,
.32 HE ‘early’ Improved I Frame w/Rd sight, 2”, 5 screw, rd butt, c. late 1951, bottom.

RIGHT SIDE:
.32 HE late Improved I w/ramp sight & barrel rib, 3”, 5 screw, rd butt, shipped c. 1953, top right;
.32 R.P. Model of 1953 New I frame, 3”, 3 & 4 screw, sq butt, c. 1954; next,
.32 R.P. Target Transitional I, 4”, 6 screw, rebated sq butt, 1957; next,
.32 R.P. J frame Model 31-1, 3”, 3 screw, sq butt, 1980, bottom.



Model 30-1 .32 S&W Long, 4" J frame 1966 vintage converted to a target model. Target features added: adj rear sight, hammer, trigger, ramped front sight w/sight base, modified stocks. Changed the flat cyl latch to a pre war "double pinch" latch. Also has a spare cyl reamed to 32 H&R Mag.




“ .38 DA Perfected Model”, P frame, .38 S&W, #44591, c. 1917, 3 1/4” barrel, shortest available.




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1st 4” Kit Gun Model of 1953 New I frame, Rd butt, 4 screw, 1955,
2nd 4” Kit Gun Model 34 New I frame, sq butt, modified factory Target Stocks, 3 screw,1959,
3rd 2” Kit Gun Model 34-1 J frame, sq butt, 1969,
4th 4” Kit Gun Model 34-2 J frame, sq butt, modified factory Target stocks, 1980, and unmodified Targets.

RIGHT SIDE LADYSMITH & CHIEFS SPECIALS (in evolutionary order):

Ladysmith 3rd Model, .22 Long, 7 shot M frame, 3”, C. 1912,
.38 Spl 2” rd butt Baby J frame, pre-1953, 2nd version with ramp sight and barrel rib,
.38 Spl 3” slim barrel sq butt J frame, 1970,
.38 Spl 2” sq butt J frame, 1971.

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I guess I should post my "Trifecta" of a Baby Chief, a pre-War Terrier, and an early post-War 32 HE snub, as viewed clockwise from the top. The 32 is my most frequent CCW with the Baby coming second. I've just got to start reloading for the Terrier to give it more range time!

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All three calibers of the snubbies, a perfect trifecta!
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Well here is a pretty slick airweight that I owned at one time, a pre 37 with an alloy cylinder and scarce square butt.
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A few of my Terriers.

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How about the only known Factory Nickel smooth ramp Baby Chief:

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No small frame collection would be complete without the smallest of them all.
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How about a pre 30 snubby:


Or a nickel baby chief:
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here is an odd ball. This one is one of Only 1500 Made. it is a Cenntenial Air-Weight revolver chambered in .32 H&R Magnum. It remains to be Unfired in it's original Box shown with an Up-Grade of Factory Boot stock's made by altamont. Regards, Hammerdown


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George,

I love those boxes in your OP. The grey sun ray with red corners is especially nice, I don't remember seeing one of those. Great thread.
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Does an I-Frame Regulation Police count?

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Oh yeah, and a beauty it is! A nice late 1920s vintage, built on the cusp between extractor rod knob and stock medallion changes; '20s stocks and '30s knob, but may have shipped much later.
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I got a few small frame guns.Some I frames first. A few lemon squeezers thrown in.
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Paroxysms of lust for that pretty pre-40 near the top. A real beauty.
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I'm thinnest on the little ones, a deplorable situation I realize.

Mrs. BMc carries this one presently, a Model 642-1 purchased new in 1998, the last new Smith & Wesson revolver purchased around here.


Favorite usnin' J-frame, a mid-1980s Model 649, done "retro."


Early Chief's Special, shipped early March of 1952


A World War I's Eve-produced I-Frame .32
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By George there are some beauties on this thread. Nice job everyone & thanks George for starting this.
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Small frames? Okay, here are some, not like that big bulky stuff shown so far:

Some Ladysmiths and their Brazilian cousin (picture heavy)

From front to back, three Third Model Ladysmiths in .22 Long (refinished nickel with pearls, original blue and original nickel) and a Rossi Princess in .22LR:




Target Ladysmith acquired

Target Ladysmith (refinished):


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I love the blued one.

Most people, who don't already know, will have a hard time getting the idea just how tiny the Lady Smith frame is from the picture, though. You need to add a K-Frame to that shot. Or even an I or J Frame.

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You gents obviously have too many guns! Really nice pics,thanks to all for showing.
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Yup, it's a beauty. Aside from a few scratches on the side from the ejector star it's pretty clean.

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Ladysmith with Triple Lock .44.




The Incredible Shrinking 1917!!! (also in nickel!)




THE AMAZING COLOSSAL LADYSMITH!!!


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Now that's a great shot. Amazing how tiny it looks even next to the diminutive Regulation Police.

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This is an amazing thread, and sadly I have only one gun which may qualify: a 1909 Perfected with police rack number.
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2 LS & 500 Mag:



.22/32 Kit Gun, Model of 1953 New I frame, 3 1/2" barrel:




.22/32 Kit Gun Pre war, 4":




.22/32 '20s era HFT shortened to 3 3/8":



.22/32 '20s era HFT:

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I forgot I had this one: .38 Regulation Police from 2/53 with all matching numbers, BUT with the numbered barrel mis-marked "32 Long Ctg" by the factory!
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All of these are '52 shipped except the Chief Special Airweight which is a '53 and the Centennials which also are '53s.
Left to right: .22/32 Kit Gun Transitional, .32 Regulation Police & .32 Hand Ejectors, .38 Regulation Police and Terrier.

Left to right: Centennials, Chiefs Special (Steel) round-smooth-serrated front sights, Chiefs Special Airweight.
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If you forgot you had it, it couldn't be very important to you. I will be happy to take it off your hands and provide it with the attention it needs.
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Here are two additional small frame guns to add to the fun. An early chiefs special SN 594 and a scarce chiefs special target. Both are in the original boxes.

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Left to right: .22/32 Kit Gun Transitional, .32 Regulation Police & .32 Hand Ejectors, .38 Regulation Police and Terrier.
Very cool!

How many 6 screws besides the .22/32?
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A couple older, less good looking I-frames.


.32 HE from the 19-teens.






Another from the same time period.






Model 30 no dash.


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George,
Thanks for starting a nice thread and posting your gorgeous photos of your wonderful collection.

Thanks to all the other guys posting interesting examples.

After all the other wonderful examples this seem a little superfluous but here goes anyways.

John

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John,

Gorgeous, they don't all look that good even when new. A pre 1966 J frame, a Mod 30-1. Is it stamped Mod 30? I have one Mod 34-1 stamped Mod 34; no room for the dash 1.
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WOW is all I can say! I love S&W revolvers and never knew there were so many. Now I know what to look for in my travels and thank all of you for sharing this information. WOW!
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Gorgeous, they don't all look that good even when new. A pre 1966 J frame, a Mod 30-1. Is it stamped Mod 30? I have one Mod 34-1 stamped Mod 34; no room for the dash 1.
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Yes. As best as my brain can recall I think I incorrectly labeled the model 30 in post #40 without a dash 1. Too tired to dig it out right now to confirm. I believe it is stamped 30-1. Thanks for the nice comments.
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Here is a picture of the Model 34 no dash that I bought my son just before his 12th birthday. (In this state, New South Wales, children have to be a minimum of 12 years old before they are allowed to shoot any firearm).
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Here is a picture of the Model 34 no dash that I bought my son just before his 12th birthday. (In this state, New South Wales, children have to be a minimum of 12 years old before they are allowed to shoot any firearm).
Well he'll certainly be proud of that one! It looks brand new, like a time capsule from 1969 - 70.

A Model 34 would be a pre 1961 I frame however, and that one's clearly a J frame, Model 34-1. It's not unusual that the -1 is left off. With a serial # I can provide a pretty close birth date for it.

I can't say I understand the no shooting until 12. That's a bit of a shame, they learn faster and learn better at 6 than at 12. The boys (and girls) in our family start shooting and learn firearms safety with their parents after 6 or so.

But at least your son's wait is now over!
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Well he'll certainly be proud of that one! It looks brand new, like a time capsule from 1969 - 70.

A Model 34 would be a pre 1961 I frame however, and that one's clearly a J frame, Model 34-1. It's not unusual that the -1 is left off. With a serial # I can provide a pretty close birth date for it.

I can't say I understand the no shooting until 12. That's a bit of a shame, they learn faster and learn better at 6 than at 12. The boys (and girls) in our family start shooting and learn firearms safety with their parents after 6 or so.

But at least your son's wait is now over!
Thanks for the info Jim. I went back and checked the gun, confirming that there isn't a dash on the frame (when the cylinder is open). The serial number is M68073. From page 490 of the 4th edition, it says manufacture between 1973 and 1977. So I guess it's a 34-1 without the -1. Is that right?
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Thanks for the info Jim. I went back and checked the gun, confirming that there isn't a dash on the frame (when the cylinder is open). The serial number is M68073. From page 490 of the 4th edition, it says manufacture between 1973 and 1977. So I guess it's a 34-1 without the -1. Is that right?
Yes, that's correct. Sometimes if the Mod 34 is stamped close to the edge of the yoke, the -1 is past the edge and doesn't get stamped. I have one like that from 1972 and have seen others.

It's very likely from the last quarter of 1973.
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And here are my two Model 36's; a square butt and round butt. The round Butt grips are a little light for my tastes. Any suggestions on how to darken them?
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Sorry. Forgot about this one too. Another 36 only this one has a three inch barrel (shown with my 65-3).
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And here are my two Model 36's; a square butt and round butt. The round Butt grips are a little light for my tastes. Any suggestions on how to darken them?
Strip them with furniture stripper, stain with walnut stain, and use Birchwood Casey's Tru Oil as a finish coat.
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