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04-21-2015, 08:40 PM
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S&W Victory Model Question
Just acquired a S&W Victory model, serial no V614,333.
It has all the British proofs. US Property GHD stamp.
Bore is immaculate! can you tell me when she was made?
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04-21-2015, 08:45 PM
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V614333 would have shipped in mid-1944. It should have a 5" barrel, smooth wood grips, and a dull phosphate finish, not blued. Proof marks were added before it was sold on the commercial market during the 1950s and 1960s. Main problem is in finding .38 S&W ammunition. Many of these had their chambers deepened to accept .38 S&W Special cartridges.
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Terry,
Welcome to the forum.
That's a nice acquisition.
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04-22-2015, 08:09 AM
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Thank you! Yes it has a 5" barrel. Dull phosphate finish, Smooth wood grips, and all the stampings from England being a Lend Lease. US Property GHD on top. Have not checked the cyl if it will accept 38 special or not. I have all the dies and (300) 38 S&W brass, waiting on boolits! I slugged the barrel and it has a .361 bore. Luv these old Smith's!
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V614333 would have shipped in mid-1944. It should have a 5" barrel, smooth wood grips, and a dull phosphate finish, not blued. Proof marks were added before it was sold on the commercial market during the 1950s and 1960s. Main problem is in finding .38 S&W ammunition. Many of these had their chambers deepened to accept .38 S&W Special cartridges.
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.361" diameter bullets are correct, however, even the .357"-.358" bullets for .38 Special will work OK. I have loaded thousands of rounds with the smaller diameter bullets.
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It shoots FANTASTIC with a Lee 158 gr SWC .362 cast from my lee mold. Liquid alox lube. Shoots great with green dot powder. 2.6 grs. Any other pet load? How about 231 powder?
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.361" diameter bullets are correct, however, even the .357"-.358" bullets for .38 Special will work OK. I have loaded thousands of rounds with the smaller diameter bullets.
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It shoots FANTASTIC with a Lee 158 gr SWC .362 cast from my lee mold. Liquid alox lube. Shoots great with green dot powder. 2.6 grs. Any other pet load? How about 231 powder?
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If that load works well, use it, but it's on the light side. In a Victory, you can load to almost .38 Special levels with no problem. 3.5-4.0 grains of 231 with the same bullet would be a little warmer.
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Nice to know, Thank you! I was using lymans old cast bullet book. Somewhere from the 80's. I'll stiffen them up, out of curiosity!
Back to the bench!
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If that load works well, use it, but it's on the light side. In a Victory, you can load to almost .38 Special levels with no problem. 3.5-4.0 grains of 231 with the same bullet would be a little warmer.
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The Lyman loads are a little conservative, as there a lot of the old top-break revolvers in.38 S&W around which are much weaker than the solid frame S&W revolvers. In fact, the British also used a top-break service revolver (the Enfield) during WWII, in addition to the S&W M&P. For a long time I used 3.5 grains of Unique (balistically very similar to 231/HP-38) with 158 grain bullets in an old S&W 38 DA 4th Model with no problems, other than the recoil was a little uncomfortable, owing to the tiny grip of the 38 DA. I later dropped back to 3.0 grains for that reason.
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